Doohickie Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: If Italy doesn't have a history to be proud of then nobody does lol I'm reading a Roman history at the moment.... Pax Romana involved a lot of bloodshed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: If Italy doesn't have a history to be proud of then nobody does lol Not to be that guy (no, that’s a lie, I’m rolling around in the opportunity to be that guy right now) but Italy as an idea, let alone a country really doesn’t have much of a history at all… Lincoln was president when it happened… the “I’m not Italian I’m Sicilian” mindset is, honestly, much closer to reality than lumping them together with the blond dudes in the Alps…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 22 hours ago, inkman said: I don’t know a single Italian person who refers to themselves as anything other than Italian first. No culture is more proud of their heritage than Italians. Misguided as that may be. All four of my grandparents were Italian and I am very definitely American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sabel79 said: Not to be that guy (no, that’s a lie, I’m rolling around in the opportunity to be that guy right now) but Italy as an idea, let alone a country really doesn’t have much of a history at all… Lincoln was president when it happened… the “I’m not Italian I’m Sicilian” mindset is, honestly, much closer to reality than lumping them together with the blond dudes in the Alps…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 Tocchet supposedly the preference in Seattle. I have no clue why, he's never really showed much in Arizona and Tampa Bay, but that's fine. I have no interest in a Tocchet run Sabres team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sabel79 said: Not to be that guy (no, that’s a lie, I’m rolling around in the opportunity to be that guy right now) but Italy as an idea, let alone a country really doesn’t have much of a history at all… Lincoln was president when it happened… the “I’m not Italian I’m Sicilian” mindset is, honestly, much closer to reality than lumping them together with the blond dudes in the Alps…. Yeah I was referring more to the ethnic group(s?) that can trace ancestry through some of the greatest heights of civilization than the explicit nation state of Italy as we know it today Edited June 16, 2021 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Randall Flagg said: Yeah I was referring more to the ethnic group than the explicit nation state of Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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