Hank Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 I'm hoping they draft three Centers in the first round. I hope they draft two more in the second round. Go BPA after that as long as BPA is a center. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, Hank said: I'm hoping they draft three Centers in the first round. I hope they draft two more in the second round. Go BPA after that as long as BPA is a center. This team needs RHd almost as much as it needs centers. Our pipeline/young players are better at C than Our RHd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hank said: I'm hoping they draft three Centers in the first round. I hope they draft two more in the second round. Go BPA after that as long as BPA is a center. Draft BPA, maybe lean away from LHD but BPA outside of that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Draft BPA, maybe lean away from LHD but BPA outside of that. Even if it's a LHD, if he's clearly the BPA then take him. Just because Botterill could never convert any of his abundance of D-men into anything better than a 4th round pick doesn't mean the new regime will necessarily suffer that same strange affliction. But yeah, if it's close, they have enough LHD for the foreseeable future. Edited November 15, 2021 by Taro T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, sabresparaavida said: This team needs RHd almost as much as it needs centers. Our pipeline/young players are better at C than Our RHd. This isn't wrong, but you draft best available player. You trade and sign FAs to fill any deficiencies that might emerge. So sure, if 2 guys are similar take the RHD, but only if they are similar in your rating. Always draft a goalie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: This isn't wrong, but you draft best available player. You trade and sign FAs to fill any deficiencies that might emerge. So sure, if 2 guys are similar take the RHD, but only if they are similar in your rating. Always draft a goalie. Good news is the chances of bpa being a lhd in round one this year are exceedingly low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Taro T said: Even if it's a LHD, if he's clearly the BPA then take him. Just because Botterill could never convert any of his abundance of D-men into anything better than a 4th round pick doesn't mean the new regime will necessarily suffer that same strange affliction. But yeah, if it's close, they have enough LHD for the foreseeable future. That's not it will work outside of the top few picks. There won't be a "clearly" this over this, but instead be different tiers of players that you can pick from. They'll grade guys out sure but you'll have 3-4 guys at the same grade and at that stage you can look at positions. Again in the 2022 draft, there's only about 3lhd that might go in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: That's not it will work outside of the top few picks. There won't be a "clearly" this over this, but instead be different tiers of players that you can pick from. They'll grade guys out sure but you'll have 3-4 guys at the same grade and at that stage you can look at positions. Again in the 2022 draft, there's only about 3lhd that might go in the first. This and teams will definitely consider what positions/players they like later before making a selection. If they think it’s a deep draft where the gap between a player in the current tier and the next few isn’t big but there’s a steep drop off of, say, goalie talent, they may be more inclined to take the goalie now. A lot of factors go into draft outside of just making a list of hundreds of players and taking the one at the top every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, Hoss said: This and teams will definitely consider what positions/players they like later before making a selection. If they think it’s a deep draft where the gap between a player in the current tier and the next few isn’t big but there’s a steep drop off of, say, goalie talent, they may be more inclined to take the goalie now. A lot of factors go into draft outside of just making a list of hundreds of players and taking the one at the top every time. Yup You also have scouting assets to consider. Sure you will scout those 3 lhd that might be in the first but you might triple scout the RHD because you know you need that player have to get that pick right. You can't scout every player at the same level of intensity even with video scouting and analytics involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 10 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Draft BPA, maybe lean away from LHD but BPA outside of that. 10 hours ago, Taro T said: Even if it's a LHD, if he's clearly the BPA then take him. Just because Botterill could never convert any of his abundance of D-men into anything better than a 4th round pick doesn't mean the new regime will necessarily suffer that same strange affliction. But yeah, if it's close, they have enough LHD for the foreseeable future. You can go BPA to an extent but you can't go three straight drafts without taking a C in the first couple rounds. It'll get you into trouble down the line 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Thorny said: You can go BPA to an extent but you can't go three straight drafts without taking a C in the first couple rounds. It'll get you into trouble down the line I'm not sure that's true for us. With Tage unexpectedly converted and adding Krebs suddenly we're not as thin at C as we thought we were. No guarantees obviously, but if Krebs is the real deal and Cozens continues his development as a 2 way shut down center, pretty soon Mitts will be fighting to hold onto a roster spot. Not saying we shouldn't look at adding more young prospect centers, just that it's not as dire and urgent as it appeared. My personal view is BPA is the approach overall but in later rounds I would lean towards more size and grit. We tend to look towards speedy small guys that might overcome their size deficiency with their talent, and it can work to some extent, but I think if we do become a playoff team with tons of young talent I want some maybe less talented grit we can call up when needed. Rather have our own younger guys than trading for some has been grit like Toronto did with Simmons etc. and, (I will keep saying this forever :)) always draft a goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Grit matters but size, meh. Lots of tall guys who suck at hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 JJ Peterka is not tall but has plenty of grit and skill and he's what I want in my picks. I would add that in 2021 the Sabres did add some wingers with size in Nadeau and Bloom who also have skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: JJ Peterka is not tall but has plenty of grit and skill and he's what I want in my picks. I would add that in 2021 the Sabres did add some wingers with size in Nadeau and Bloom who also have skill. Bloom is a Centre. He plays Centre for Saginaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Grit matters but size, meh. Lots of tall guys who suck at hockey. Lots of little guys, too! Nobody has ever been good because of size. Edited November 15, 2021 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crusader1969 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I dont get ranking that have that have Savoie at 8 or so. I guess he isn't a "complete" player with his defensive game but has all the offensive tools you could want. Though, I have read where people are not convinced he translates to an NHL center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: I dont get ranking that have that have Savoie at 8 or so. I guess he isn't a "complete" player with his defensive game but has all the offensive tools you could want. Though, I have read where people are not convinced he translates to an NHL center He is small and that will always be used against him. His issue is that he is a fearless small player who goes flying into all situations full tilt. He has been knocked out cold by two massive hits the past couple years so I think some worry about durability with that style. At the end of the day I think he goes top 3, just too much talent there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 How not to draft and why the Sens are going to be bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: How not to draft and why the Sens are going to be bad... This is interesting to me. I thought Boucher was a bad pick, but I do want to see why a team that picked Brady Tkachuk, Shane Pinto, Jake Sanderson and Tim Stutzle the three previous years are going to be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: How not to draft and why the Sens are going to be bad... 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: This is interesting to me. I thought Boucher was a bad pick, but I do want to see why a team that picked Brady Tkachuk, Shane Pinto, Jake Sanderson and Tim Stutzle the three previous years are going to be bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 8 hours ago, dudacek said: This is interesting to me. I thought Boucher was a bad pick, but I do want to see why a team that picked Brady Tkachuk, Shane Pinto, Jake Sanderson and Tim Stutzle the three previous years are going to be bad. You listed a 3rd overall, a 4th overall, a 5th overall, and Pinto (32). The reason they are going to be bad is because their drafting in the last 2 years outside of the very top is highly questionable and 2021 was really bad. If that process repeats (I think it will) then that will not be enough good players entering the system to be competitive long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 The real reason I am here: A name to watch, late July bday and center Jonathan Lekkerimäki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The real reason I am here: A name to watch, late July bday and center Jonathan Lekkerimäki Thanks for the link. I am optimistic the Sabres are on the upswing but realistic in seeing another lottery pick. Having 3 first rounders keeps me engaged with mock drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The real reason I am here: A name to watch, late July bday and center Jonathan Lekkerimäki You had me at “centre”! Edited November 16, 2021 by Thorny That will never not autocorrect to the Canadian spelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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