Andrew Amerk Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: I know you’re trolling with Wilson so I’ll ignore that one but I think you’re a few years behind on Ovi and Kopitar. Players like Ovi, Kane, Kopitar, and Crosby may be the “old guard” in a young league, but what they bring to their teams is more valuable than a young hotshot lighting up the lamp. In my opinion, that gives them an edge in still being the “better” player (all the while what each of us thinks makes one player or another better is subjective). I didn’t add Tom Wilson to troll. The guy does it all. He can score, pass, hit, fight. I watched his entire team gel together after what he did, and they seemed to enjoy having his back. Not many players can bring a team together like that, it’s an intangible that is rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: Players like Ovi, Kane, Kopitar, and Crosby may be the “old guard” in a young league, but what they bring to their teams is more valuable than a young hotshot lighting up the lamp. In my opinion, that gives them an edge in still being the “better” player (all the while what each of us thinks makes one player or another better is subjective). I didn’t add Tom Wilson to troll. The guy does it all. He can score, pass, hit, fight. I watched his entire team gel together after what he did, and they seemed to enjoy having his back. Not many players can bring a team together like that, it’s an intangible that is rare. Kopitar’s contributions to the Kings have certainly shown up in the standings. The Caps have been solid even without Ovi in the lineup at times. He’s still around that top 15/20 range but he’s not THAT dude. Tom Wilson is nowhere near the top 10. He’s probably not top 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: Kopitar’s contributions to the Kings have certainly shown up in the standings. The Caps have been solid even without Ovi in the lineup at times. He’s still around that top 15/20 range but he’s not THAT dude. Tom Wilson is nowhere near the top 10. He’s probably not top 50. Kopitar has won 2 Cups. Most people would put Connor and Leon in their top 10, but neither have come close to sniffing the Cup yet. Wilson, to me, has a now rare combination of qualities that most players don’t have. I see Marchand getting top 10 mentions, but somehow Wilson isn’t even top 50? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 My Top-10. I surprised myself with a couple of these. Connor McDavid Leon Draisaitl Auston Matthews Mitch Marner Nathan MacKinnon Cale Makar Sidney Crosby Aleksaner Barkov Nikita Kucherov Adam Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Curt said: My Top-10. I surprised myself with a couple of these. Connor McDavid Leon Draisaitl Auston Matthews Mitch Marner Nathan MacKinnon Cale Makar Sidney Crosby Aleksaner Barkov Nikita Kucherov Adam Fox I’m glad to see I’m not the only Fox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: Kopitar has won 2 Cups. Most people would put Connor and Leon in their top 10, but neither have come close to sniffing the Cup yet. Wilson, to me, has a now rare combination of qualities that most players don’t have. I see Marchand getting top 10 mentions, but somehow Wilson isn’t even top 50? Why? It’s about right now. Not what you did in 2014. Tom Wilson has never had more than 44 points in a season. Brad Marchand has had more than that eight times including four seasons of 85+ points. They’re not even close. 25 minutes ago, Curt said: My Top-10. I surprised myself with a couple of these. Connor McDavid Leon Draisaitl Auston Matthews Mitch Marner Nathan MacKinnon Cale Makar Sidney Crosby Aleksaner Barkov Nikita Kucherov Adam Fox Makar is a guy that’s getting close for me since he’s out it together on more than one occasion. Fox will need to do it again for me to really be sold but he’s definitely up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: Makar is a guy that’s getting close for me since he’s out it together on more than one occasion. Fox will need to do it again for me to really be sold but he’s definitely up there. Before I really started thinking about it I didn’t think Fox would be there. I’ve watched him against the Sabres and clearly he is dynamic. Then just looking at the mins he is logging, his production, his play in all situations (getting used quite a bit on the PK and excelling there), the overall package won me over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: Before I really started thinking about it I didn’t think Fox would be there. I’ve watched him against the Sabres and clearly he is dynamic. Then just looking at the mins he is logging, his production, his play in all situations (getting used quite a bit on the PK and excelling there), the overall package won me over. He's totally won me over. Hell of a player. Feel very much handicapped in this, in that I barely watched 3/4s of the league this year and it was impossible to tell how the standard on play in each division compared against each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 In no order and not taking contracts into consideration whatsoever.... Connor McDavid Leon Draisaitl Auston Matthews Nathan MacKinnon Aleksaner Barkov Nikita Kucherov Patrick Kane Mark Stone Cindy Crosby Victor Hedman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Is this who we think are top 10 in the league or top 10 players we like to watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Forecheck Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 McDavid MacKinnon Matthews Panarin Draisaitl Hedman Marchand Rantanen Stone Crosby 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Matthews should be 2 or 3. He’s out if this world good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said: Matthews should be 2 or 3. He’s out if this world good. For me 3rd behind Mcdavid and McKinnon. Those guys are electric when they get the puck. That's where I thought a healthy Jack would be this year 😢 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 hours ago, steveoath said: Is this who we think are top 10 in the league or top 10 players we like to watch? Best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 my top 10 best players are of course sabres 1. hutton 2. risto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 16 hours ago, Curt said: My Top-10. I surprised myself with a couple of these. Connor McDavid Leon Draisaitl Auston Matthews Mitch Marner Nathan MacKinnon Cale Makar Sidney Crosby Aleksaner Barkov Nikita Kucherov Adam Fox Is this in order? Just surprised by Marner being that high and above MacKinnon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thorny said: Is this in order? Just surprised by Marner being that high and above MacKinnon No particular order. I had a hard enough time picking the 10. I wasn’t up for trying to order numbers 2-10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) McDavid Crosby Matthews MacKinnon Hedman Panarin Draisaitl Marchand Vasilevskiy Kucherov Edited May 8, 2021 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Butt its Toronto your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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