Hoss Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Buffalonill said: Sam is worth more I don’t know that Sam for JT Miller straight up would even be considered by Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hoss said: I don’t know that Sam for JT Miller straight up would even be considered by Vancouver. I think they're pretty even myself. I think Rhino is under valued by many on this board. Rhino is I think three years younger. Edited May 20, 2021 by Radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, Radar said: I think they're pretty even myself. I think Rhino is under valued by many on this board. Yea I think they’re close in value but the trade in question gives Samson far more value than Miller which isn’t the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Yea I think they’re close in value but the trade in question gives Samson far more value than Miller which isn’t the case. I edited my post to say Rhino is younger. Both play wing or center. I would not trade Rhino for Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Radar said: I edited my post to say Rhino is younger. Both play wing or center. I would not trade Rhino for Miller. I wouldn’t only because I don’t think we’re in the position to make that deal and I don’t think Vancouver would either. A deal with Vancouver for Samson is a good fit, though. I’d be targeting Boeser or Horvat coming the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Hoss said: Yea I think they’re close in value but the trade in question gives Samson far more value than Miller which isn’t the case. Really? I saw it as Sabres get ~ Miller for Reinhart, > a 2nd for Risto , and < 1st for taking on Ericksson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dudacek said: Really? I saw it as Sabres get ~ Miller for Reinhart, > a 2nd for Risto , and < 1st for taking on Ericksson You’re not getting a first for taking on a guy with one year left on his deal at $6M. Especially not from a lottery team. Edited May 21, 2021 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Hoss said: You’re not getting a first for taking on a guy with one year left on his deal at $6M. Especially not from a lottery team. It wouldn’t be the first time. Can’t completely rule it out. https://www.nhl.com/news/patrick-marleau-traded-to-carolina-by-toronto/c-307988824 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, Curt said: It wouldn’t be the first time. Can’t completely rule it out. https://www.nhl.com/news/patrick-marleau-traded-to-carolina-by-toronto/c-307988824 Vancouver isn’t a contending team desperate for cap space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hoss said: Vancouver isn’t a contending team desperate for cap space Yeah. My point wasn’t that Vancouver specifically would do it. More of a general reminder that it can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Hoss said: You’re not getting a first for taking on a guy with one year left on his deal at $6M. Especially not from a lottery team. No you're not but you aren't responding to the entire post. You might get a late 1st and nobody is taking on Louie for less. And you might also get a late first for Ristolainen. Pick ~10 and pick ~40 for ~pick 25 and ~pick 26 is ballpark enough that Miller for Reinhart is also ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 If we're trading with Vancouver we need to bring some Red back in this organization Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 16 hours ago, Curt said: Keyword may be “workable”. It doesn’t necessarily mean good. He is someone who could absorb difficult matchups so Mitts/Cozens don’t need to. Cirelli as the 1C would be workable for a team looking to rebuild and prioritize improvement over the course of the season, yes. It's not a roster you put together if you are looking to make the playoffs, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 If Sam goes, any interest in Garland? 25 y.o. RFA. It won't happen but offer sheet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 If the Sabres are trading Jack and Sam any kind of deal that costs picks seems foolish. They seem poised to to deal two of their three impact talents and most are expecting baskets of hope in return. That said, I like Garland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, steveoath said: If Sam goes, any interest in Garland? 25 y.o. RFA. It won't happen but offer sheet? I have interest. Offersheets aren’t real, but maybe a trade. At some point I saw that they may not want to give home the raise he might command. I would trade Olofsson plus a little for him. If available, I would be interested in trying to trade for Garland regardless of the Jack/Sam situations. Edited May 23, 2021 by Curt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 12 hours ago, steveoath said: If Sam goes, any interest in Garland? 25 y.o. RFA. It won't happen but offer sheet? No way I’m giving him an offer sheet but he’s a guy I hope they have interest in regardless of whether Jack/Sam are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) Here's an idea based on the supposed WPG interest in Risto Risto(50%) and Pick #33 to WPG for WPG's 1st this year (Barring a Top 4 Finish of course) (#17 to #23 or so) and WPG's 2nd in 2022. Edited June 6, 2021 by thewookie1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 6 hours ago, thewookie1 said: Here's an idea based on the supposed WPG interest in Risto Risto(50%) and Pick #33 to WPG for WPG's 1st this year (Barring a Top 4 Finish of course) (#17 to #23 or so) and WPG's 2nd in 2022. I’m not really sure what this trade does for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: I’m not really sure what this trade does for us Gives us draft capital and rids us of a malcontent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Hoss said: I’m not really sure what this trade does for us We could also theoretically trade the WPG 1st for Connor Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 57 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: We could also theoretically trade the WPG 1st for Connor Garland. I’m in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’m in Hell, he's part of the reason I want another later 1st; Arizona needs a 1st and then we'd have one to offer them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Hell, he's part of the reason I want another later 1st; Arizona needs a 1st and then we'd have one to offer them. I’m sure we can make a package work without one but I’d only do that Risto deal if Arizona told us “go get us a first.” But I also imagine our 33 should be a good part of a deal if they’re looking for earlier picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 7, 2021 Report Share Posted June 7, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 12:11 AM, Buffalonill said: If we're trading with Vancouver we need to bring some Red back in this organization сабли нет русской политики реально 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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