Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: On a side note....I think the importance of the center position in todays NHL compared to wingers has decreased slightly. Do you want any holes at any position, including Center? Nope. Is Center less important than the wing? Probably not. But 5-10 years ago you needed dominant centers, they mattered SO much more than wingers. I don't think that is the case anymore. I'd put dominant/great wingers as an equal priority as the Center position now (or at least a lot closer than it was) At least in terms of the advanced metrics, what I've read and been told and managed to understand is that centres affect the game a little more than wingers, and wingers affect the game more than D-men This is of course all on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: It should be painful to acquire Eichel. It really is that simple. Exactly x 100! One of the top 10 to 15 players drafted the past decade. That’s at least worth a top prospect plus! These teams want to throw secondary assets and win a cup combining Eichel with their top prospects. Turgeon got Lafontaine. This is the same thing plus. Edited July 28, 2021 by Gatorman0519 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: On a side note....I think the importance of the center position in todays NHL compared to wingers has decreased slightly. Do you want any holes at any position, including Center? Nope. Is Center less important than the wing? Probably not. But 5-10 years ago you needed dominant centers, they mattered SO much more than wingers. I don't think that is the case anymore. I'd put dominant/great wingers as an equal priority as the Center position now (or at least a lot closer than it was) On a purely anecdotal note - the Jets over here where I live have built from the wing-in over the years and the results haven't been great. When it comes to the playoffs, I still think you need to match up at C depth or you are at a huge disadvantage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, SDS said: Piranha 3DD was a more thoughtful, critically acclaimed, picture. Home Run Hollywood formula - add heaping amounts of beautiful young people, Four parts of washed up actors, a sprinkle of hybrid porn stars, copious amount of nudity. Shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, Gabrielor said: Chytill = Middle 6 center. Lundqvist = a right shot Ryan Johnson. Lundqvist, statistically, is far more than Ryan Johnson. He had 63 points in 97 games in the SHL as a 19 and 20-year-old defenceman. 8 points in 7 games in his last world juniors. 5 points in 3 games at this year's Men's world championship. Last year he scored the most goals by a U21 defenceman in SHL history and won their version of the Norris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Broken Ankles said: Home Run Hollywood formula - add heaping amounts of beautiful young people, Four parts of washed up actors, a sprinkle of hybrid porn stars, copious amount of nudity. Shake. The shake is really the critical piece. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Ankles Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, dudacek said: Isn’t a two projected top 4 RHDs with complementary talents and a projected 2C a better return than a projected 1B C and a projected 4/5 (Krebs and Hague?) Neither D have played a game in the NHL. I can’t see why we need/want 2 D Men as a return. Unless one is Miller and a guaranteed top 4 with the second, a prospect. Prefer a top Center and fewer pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, bunomatic said: By the time the trade call is made this thread will either be the Sound of Music or Shartnado. If it falls somewhere between ecstasy and agony, will it simply be 'The Sound of Sharts'? Edited July 28, 2021 by ExWNYer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 My arthritic knee is actin' up something fierce, the one that got caught in the hay baler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 If these cheap skate GMs don’t want to suffer a bit for Jack and essentially demand to be gifted him, I say we walk. Maybe even offer sheet one of their guys too! Okay now I’m being emotional, but still. This is beyond ridiculous, it’s like they’re trying to fleece KA. I feel like they’re all the NYR at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rasmus_ Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Thorny said: Krebs, Brisson, Tuch, 2022 1st. If you get those four components it's an alright move. If you take on deadweight, then ***** them too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, I-90 W said: If these cheap skate GMs don’t want to suffer a bit for Jack and essentially demand to be gifted him, I say we walk. Maybe even offer sheet one of their guys too! Okay now I’m being emotional, but still. This is beyond ridiculous, it’s like they’re trying to fleece KA. I feel like they’re all the NYR at this point. You get awfully emotional over some persons tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, SDS said: You get awfully emotional over some persons tweets. You should be used to that by now from TBD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said: Krebs, Brisson, Tuch, 2022 1st. If you get those four components it's an alright move. If you take on deadweight, then ***** them too. I don't think they'll give you tuch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: I don't think they'll give you tuch Well, I'm going for high. Reilly Smith is definitely not the answer. I wouldn't touch any veterans on more than a one year deal. Unless we're flipping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Rasmus_ said: Well, I'm going for high. Reilly Smith is definitely not the answer. I wouldn't touch any veterans on more than a one year deal. Unless we're flipping. I'd rather have Krebs, Brisson, the first, and Smith than the offer with Hague (that had him instead of brisson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 I'm predicting that he doesn't get traded today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Tuch is a nice player but it’s not as if he is a PPG player or something. Not even close to that. If they say a player like him is untouchable it really makes you question if we can even really “win” a trade with them at all in the long run of all of this. Then again, I’m not even sure how important NHL ready players are to KA in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: I'd rather have Krebs, Brisson, the first, and Smith than the offer with Hague (that had him instead of brisson) Is it crazy to want their 1st in the next two drafts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gabrielor Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 1 minute ago, nfreeman said: I'm predicting that he doesn't get traded today. this combined with ullmark/mccabe departures, and no signings, will make me wonder wtf theyre doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I'm predicting that he doesn't get traded today. Could very well be. Today is really, actually the last "deadline" (ha). After today, all bets are off 1 minute ago, zevo said: Is it crazy to want their 1st in the next two drafts? Hell no it's not crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 Could the Vegas / OTT trade have any affect on a potential Eichel deal? Is GMKAs inability to close the Eichel deal affecting his work signing other FAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 28, 2021 Report Share Posted July 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I'm predicting that he doesn't get traded today. Bold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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