Randall Flagg Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 We don't need the piece Thorny wants for this year. We probably need it in the organization by October 2022. There are a lot of ways we could go about getting it from this point. Drysdale is worth getting if the best available center prospect otherwise is worse than Kravtsov. He, and other pieces in our organization, have the potential to make this team good or to help bring in that piece 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, dudacek said: He’s pointing out that we have unproven babies in two of our what, five most important positions, and no one behind them if they fail. And he’s saying it would be a mistake to not use our best trade asset to address that. I don’t agree with him given the option being discussed at the moment, but it’s hardly out of line for a topic of conversation. On the contrary, it’s a huge concern. Of course his concern about the center position is a legitimate issue. I'm not saying otherwise. Who disagrees that there is a center deficiency on this team? But repeatedly pointing out what should have happened doesn't advance anything in the Jack trade rumors topic. If a prospective trading partner doesn't include a top tier center prospect then the follow-up issue is what alternative trade packages can be acceptable in a trade deal. Where you are at is where you are at! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnC said: Of course his concern about the center position is a legitimate issue. I'm not saying otherwise. Who disagrees that there is a center deficiency on this team? But repeatedly pointing out what should have happened doesn't advance anything in the Jack trade rumors topic. If a prospective trading partner doesn't include a top tier center prospect then the follow-up issue is what alternative trade packages can be acceptable in a trade deal. Where you are at is where you are at! 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: We don't need the piece Thorny wants for this year. We probably need it in the organization by October 2022. There are a lot of ways we could go about getting it from this point. Drysdale is worth getting if the best available center prospect otherwise is worse than Kravtsov. He, and other pieces in our organization, have the potential to make this team good or to help bring in that piece Ok, I'll stop mentioning it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, SwampD said: Jesus,... 255 pages. This thread sucks. Cant blame Jesus. He hasn’t been the owner or one of the dozen GMs in the last decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Andrew Amerk said: Cant blame Jesus. He hasn’t been the owner or one of the dozen GMs in the last decade. Stupid auto correct. It was supposed to say Jebus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: Idk if agree. Maybe not to the same extent but Peterka, Poltapov, and even Quinn feature a grittiness. Kisakov and Rosen are pretty fearless. From what I’ve read on here, I understand the Marchand factor is an element I value more than you do. Comtois brings that along with as much willingness to get his nose dirty and more physical strength than any of the above. Added to the more important fact he is a good two-way hockey player, it’s a package we don’t have in the system and, in my observation, most championship teams have in their arsenal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JohnC said: Of course his concern about the center position is a legitimate issue. I'm not saying otherwise. Who disagrees that there is a center deficiency on this team? But repeatedly pointing out what should have happened doesn't advance anything in the Jack trade rumors topic. If a prospective trading partner doesn't include a top tier center prospect then the follow-up issue is what alternative trade packages can be acceptable in a trade deal. Where you are at is where you are at! It’s funny how we complained for years that Buffalo didn’t have a solid center spine. Then, for a short time, they had one. Now we are back to complaining about it again. The biggest insult was Samson, who should’ve been a C all this time, but only became one at the end. Years of misery to draft C’s John and Samson and acquire ROR, all gone. Edited August 9, 2021 by Andrew Amerk 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, dudacek said: I think you’re so focused on the need for centre you are ignoring other needs. I like Joki as much as the next Sabrefan, but he certainly not a sure fire 1st-pairing RD and there is literally no one in pipeline who might be. Hell, Laaksonen is the only other RD in the the entire organization who projects as an NHL. And while we have plenty of wingers, we have no one at all who approaches the power forward mode or plays with an edge. Pekar? Brett Murray? At centre we at least have two guys with legitimate shots at turning into top-six level players. I absolutely agree we need more, but we also need RHD and power forwards and this trade meets both needs. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good great. But we need centers, not 30 wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: But we need centers, not 30 wingers Don’t worry we can move wingers to Center like Leino an Mojo. Both worked out splendidly 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: But we need centers, not 30 wingers So draft three in the 1st round next year. Trade one of your wingers, or left defenceman for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dudacek said: So draft three in the 1st round next year. Trade one of your wingers, or left defenceman for one. You make it sound easy, but the Sabres are sitting on a top C that they can’t even trade. Edited August 9, 2021 by Andrew Amerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 33 minutes ago, dudacek said: From what I’ve read on here, I understand the Marchand factor is an element I value more than you do. Comtois brings that along with as much willingness to get his nose dirty and more physical strength than any of the above. Added to the more important fact he is a good two-way hockey player, it’s a package we don’t have in the system and, in my observation, most championship teams have in their arsenal. I love what Comtois brings. I just feel there's bits and pieces of that in other wingers we have too. I love grit, but only when paired with talent. Comtois fits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, SwampD said: Stupid auto correct. It was supposed to say Jebus. Why not The Jesus? John Turturro would be cool. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 If Krebs, Rossi, Zegras, Lafreniere, Byfield, all 1C prospects are all off the table, then there’s only one logical thing to do. Kevyn said everyone needs to have patience and this is a long game. So, it’s time to take ***** the market. Get him back on the ice and prove to GMs he’s healthy. Tell Jack we couldn’t get anything better for him than a bag of pucks and a used jock strap, which isn’t that far from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Why not The Jesus? John Turturro would be cool. But, he’s a pederass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 "If you can carry a lion you can carry a line" Tage is clearly our answer at center! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 8 hours ago, SwampD said: But, he’s a pederass. The Jesus jabs are getting old. Don’t cry about people “bringing up religion”in hockey threads when they come to His defense. If it’s not allowed, people should stop bringing it up as a joke. 8 hours ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Why not The Jesus? John Turturro would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, I-90 W said: The Jesus jabs are getting old. Don’t cry about people “bringing up religion”in hockey threads when they come to His defense. If it’s not allowed, people should stop bringing it up as a joke. "The Jesus" is a reference to "The Big Lebowski." The character was played by John Turturro. I was trying to lighten things up, but I guess it fell flat. Edited August 9, 2021 by Marvin, Sabres Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: I was trying to lighten things up, but I guess it fell flat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: "The Jesus" is a reference to "The Big Lebowski." The character was played by John Turturro. I was trying to lighten things up, but I guess it fell flat. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Curt Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, I-90 W said: The Jesus jabs are getting old. Don’t cry about people “bringing up religion”in hockey threads when they come to His defense. If it’s not allowed, people should stop bringing it up as a joke. Haven’t watched The Big Lebowski, have you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Curt said: Haven’t watched The Big Lebowski, have you? That movie came out in 98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Curt said: Haven’t watched The Big Lebowski, have you? Nope, I haven’t. But if people so much as even named the current or former president, irregardless of context, it would be rightfully interpreted as bringing up politics. This is no different. Actually it’s much worse but I think you get my point. I don’t bring up religion around here, but I sure do have to defend Him every now and then. People unanimously don’t like these talks here, so others probably shouldn’t bring it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted August 9, 2021 Report Share Posted August 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, I-90 W said: Nope, I haven’t. But if people so much as even named the current or former president, irregardless of context, it would be rightfully interpreted as bringing up politics. This is no different. Actually it’s much worse but I think you get my point. I don’t bring up religion around here, but I sure do have to defend Him every now and then. People unanimously don’t like these talks here, so others probably shouldn’t bring it up. It wasn’t a religious reference. It was a reference to a character (a league bowler named Jesus) in a film scene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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