darksabre Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, klos1963 said: Why wouldn't the Sabres make his medical records available(if that story is true), what team would offer 4 big pieces without seeing his records? Why should the make his records available to anyone who isn't serious about making the trade? They have to protect their asset. This is a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, GoPuckYourself said: Adams emphasized the fact that they won't trade him if the value isn't there and that's the right approach. You're under contract, you either play for your next contract or you can ride the bench. We cannot budge from the asking price, he is a superstar and the rest of the shark GMs know this. Then end the charade. If they're not going to offer, end the talks. Like I posted earlier. Jack we tried, it didn't work. Get ready for training camp. What does Adams think will happen in the next month to improve the offers made to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Shannon's +/- Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, I-90 W said: I think what he is saying though is that if Jack unilaterally had the surgery against the Sabres wishes. If jack does that, he risks losing 50M. If he was willing to do that, it would have already happened. My read on this is that jack thinks he should be able to have experimental surgery with no risk to his contract at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Just now, darksabre said: Why should the make his records available to anyone who isn't serious about making the trade? They have to protect their asset. This is a business. Why would they ask for records if not serious about a trade? That argument never made any sense to me. From reports , it seems like quite a few teams were serious about acquiring Jack, did any teams see records? 1 minute ago, Darryl Shannon's +/- said: If jack does that, he risks losing 50M. If he was willing to do that, it would have already happened. My read on this is that jack thinks he should be able to have experimental surgery with no risk to his contract at all My guess is the Sabres wouldn't have to pay, but still maintain his rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-90 W Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, klos1963 said: Then end the charade. If they're not going to offer, end the talks. Like I posted earlier. Jack we tried, it didn't work. Get ready for training camp. What does Adams think will happen in the next month to improve the offers made to him? How do they know when Jack is truly ready for training camp? Can he keep himself out? I don’t know how that works. Think this might get ugly, with Jack saying he can’t report and their doctors saying he can. What happens if he refuses to be evaluated by the team? Lots of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 From my experience with a herniated disc being deemed surgery worthy (beyond partial laminectomy to remove the herniation) it takes a destabilization of the spine that causes loss of function to qualify. What are the losses Jack has been experiencing and how could he be playing at the start of the season with a replacement disc including time to rehab the issues that necessitated the surgery? Pain isn’t a qualifier for these fusion/replacements. If a partial laminectomy to remove the herniation isn’t enough then there has to be a significant problem. It’s almost like Jack/Jack’s agent think that no one knows about spinal injuries. This stuff works with MomnDad, not with a success-starved fan base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Just now, I-90 W said: How do they know when Jack is truly ready for training camp? Can he keep himself out? I don’t know how that works. Think this might get ugly, with Jack saying he can’t report and their doctors saying he can. What happens if he refuses to be evaluated by the team? Lots of questions. Good questions. This is a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Holy cow, this is maximum ugliness. This is so dysfunctional it’s gripped the attention of the entire hockey world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 This may be the first step by Eichel's camp to file a grievance with the league which could end up in the hands of an arbitrator. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 For such an awful team, it really hasn't been boring lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, pi2000 said: This may be the first step by Eichel's camp to file a grievance with the league which could end up in the hands of an arbitrator. That's what it feels like. Problem is, I don't think he has a leg to stand on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Heading for an ugly divorce!! Jack wants a surgery that's never been performed on a hockey player. Sabres want the disc fusion which they have much more info about. Who's gonna win the tug of war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, klos1963 said: For such an awful team, it really hasn't been boring lately. I have certainly been entertained the last 2 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 42 minutes ago, Pimlach said: The word is out on Jack. It’s known. Any team that wants him feels his immense talent is worth the locker room risk. A team like Vegas could come up with a better offer. A few others can too. Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of milk and honey You must put them on the table You go back, Jack, do it again Wheel turnin' 'round and 'round You go back, Jack, do it again 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LGR4GM Posted July 31, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 You know in the game of who will blink first, Adams or another GM, I did not think the answer was Eichel. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: You know in the game of who will blink first, Adams or another GM, I did not think the answer was Eichel. Just totally bizarre lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: You know in the game of who will blink first, Adams or another GM, I did not think the answer was Eichel. The more that happens, the more I wonder if Eichel actually was a problem in some way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Youth Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 I still think Adams blinks first. They won’t want this type of distraction and the public griping by Eichel gives them the cover they need to sell a poor trade to their fanbase - “See? He was a cancer and we just had get rid of him for the sake of the young core.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: I still think Adams blinks first. They won’t want this type of distraction and the public griping by Eichel gives them the cover they need to sell a poor trade to their fanbase - “See? He was a cancer and we just had get rid of him for the sake of the young core.” Nah. Woulda happened already. He's not gonna cave at this point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 A most interesting situation with many good points above. I understand that the Sabres want four assets in return for JE. Would anyone here take Zegras. Drysdale and a first rounder? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 i agree with the thought that it's time to move on. I'm sure that Eichel's camp is pressuring for that. We could have a very good/better future with those pieces from Anaheim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Live footage of the Kevyn Adams-Peter Fish meeting. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Live footage of the Kevyn Adams-Peter Fish meeting. That's classic - probable headed that way! Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuffalo Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, klos1963 said: For such an awful team, it really hasn't been boring lately. I don't know, the weird pissing match (?) between Fish and the Sabres is kind of funny. 41 minutes ago, Ripper said: i agree with the thought that it's time to move on. I'm sure that Eichel's camp is pressuring for that. We could have a very good/better future with those pieces from Anaheim. I never got the feeling from Eichel's camp he's pressuring anything /s Edited July 31, 2021 by Shmuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Line Center Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 The fact his Twitter handle was @JackEichel15 showed poor judgment from the start. I'm a bit shocked he deleted it tho. Did he tweet something that was immediately deleted and that prompted this statement from the agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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