Sabres Trade Taylor Hall (50% of His Salary Retained)and Curtis Lazar to Boston for a 2021 2nd and Anders Bjork

[gilbert11]

Unless you were in the room with Adams fielding offers, it’s hard for anyone to say he should’ve got more in return.

That being said, why not wait until closer to the deadline to MAYBE getting a better offer?  Again, though, we don’t know how it happened.  If it was the only or best offer and Boston pushed for a decision or they were moving on, then Adams would’ve felt he had to agree. 

[Eleven]

7 minutes ago, Curt said:

In the lead up to the trade deadline did most “experts” think Buffalo would definitely get a 1st for Hall?  Is that what they pegged his value at?

Someone got pegged, all right.

I don't care what the experts said.  My standards for a Hall trade are well-published on this board.  Scorched earth policy has a value to it, too.

10 minutes ago, dudacek said:

And then he blew out his knee and has scored 18 goals in the 112 games he’s played since. Scouts watched him play as much as we did. He wasn’t good.

You know Adams didn’t get a better offer. You know Hall isn’t going to re-sign with Buffalo for anything other than an overpayment.

Adams would have been a freaking idiot not to trade him, and a bigger idiot to,re-sign him. The return sucked.I’m not sure what else he should have done.

Scorched earth.

 

This team would have gained more in the long term by keeping Hall and spiting the rest of the league, than it gained today.

Edited April 12, 2021 by Eleven

[Curt]

1 minute ago, Eleven said:

Someone got pegged, all right.

I don't care what the experts said.  My standards for a Hall trade are well-published on this board.  Scorched earth policy has a value to it, too.

Too bad Adams wasn’t trading Hall to you then.

[triumph_communes]

Why do some of you act like you didn’t watch Hall do absolutely nothing for this team all season?  Hall and Staal gets scratched and the team has an identity all of a sudden.

[Eleven]

Just now, Curt said:

Too bad Adams wasn’t trading Hall to you then.

Too bad he traded him to anyone.

[Randall Flagg]

I haven't watched a lot of hockey lately but it's surprising to me that people know anything about a guy named Bjork on the Bruins 

[Flashsabre]

19 minutes ago, Eleven said:

Hall is a recent Hart winner and Adams is a freaking idiot letting him go for a second and a 4th line swap.

What would you have got for him?

[Curt]

Just now, Eleven said:

Too bad he traded him to anyone.

No, I’m serious.  If you were the Bruins GM, would you have traded your 1st for Hall?

You wanted Hall kept?  And resigned?

[dudacek]

3 minutes ago, Eleven said:

 

This team would have gained more in the long term by keeping Hall and spiting the rest of the league, than it gained today.

Categorically false.

There’s not a single GM who would have respected Adams for throwing away a free 2nd rounder. Many of them probably thought trading him at the deadline to the highest bidder after signing him to a one-year deal and failing to make the playoffs was a obvious possible outcome from the beginning and a no-lose one to boot.

 

[Eleven]

Just now, Curt said:

No, I’m serious.  If you were the Bruins GM, would you have traded your 1st for Hall?

You wanted Hall kept?  And resigned?

I have no idea what I would do if I were the Bruins GM.  If I think Hall puts my team over the top for a Cup run, yes, I trade a first.

I don't want Hall re-signed.  My point is that there is value to standing up to the league and saying, "hey, you want this guy, give me what he's worth.  Or no one gets him."  I've said that a couple of times, but I don't expect that you've read every one of my posts.  

[Brawndo]

 

[PerreaultForever]

imo the bare minimum should have been a conditional pick upgraded to a first if they make the conference final or Hall scores x number of points etc. 

Rookie GMs strike again. 

Bruins getting Lazar makes me think they're not finished. They do not need extra utility forwards, they need scorers. 

[Eleven]

Just now, dudacek said:

Categorically false.

There’s not a single GM who would have respected Adams for throwing away a free 2nd rounder. Many of them probably thought trading him at the deadline to the highest bidder after signing him to a one-year deal and failing to make the playoffs was a obvious possible outcome from the beginning and a no-lose one to boot.

 

*****, and I'll base that on the thumbs-ups I've received on past posts saying the same thing.

[thewookie1]

Strangely enough I would of been able to tolerate this better at 2:50 PM tomorrow if Lazar hadn't been included.

[PerreaultForever]

1 minute ago, Eleven said:

I don't want Hall re-signed.  My point is that there is value to standing up to the league and saying, "hey, you want this guy, give me what he's worth.  Or no one gets him."  I've said that a couple of times, but I don't expect that you've read every one of my posts.  

If you did that you'd get nothing. 

[triumph_communes]

Hall is fools gold who has looked absolutely awful with no flashes of life for us though. He isn’t worth a 1st. He is riding name recognition 100%

[Randall Flagg]

2 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

I've never been remotely impressed by a single thing I've seen that dom guy say tbh. That sentence is mindless theatrics unbeholden to reality 

[Eleven]

3 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

If you did that you'd get nothing. 

And neither would the other teams.  There is value in a hard stance.  It's how the West won the Cold War, FFS.

[Thorny]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

Cagguila and Bjork both played for Granato at the USNTDP. 
 

That ***** interim label is being removed isn’t it. 

The USNTDP is our organizational farm team 

[Curt]

3 minutes ago, Eleven said:

I have no idea what I would do if I were the Bruins GM.  If I think Hall puts my team over the top for a Cup run, yes, I trade a first.

I don't want Hall re-signed.  My point is that there is value to standing up to the league and saying, "hey, you want this guy, give me what he's worth.  Or no one gets him."  I've said that a couple of times, but I don't expect that you've read every one of my posts.  

It’s really just difference of opinion on his value.  I had it at about a 2nd and a sweetener (3rd or something), maybe a conditional 1st if lucky.

I just hope Bjork looks good.  Feed him whatever they’re feeding the other young guys.

[Eleven]

1 minute ago, Curt said:

Feed him whatever they’re feeding the other young guys.

We can agree to hope for this.

[dudacek]

2 minutes ago, Eleven said:

*****, and I'll base that on the thumbs-ups I've received on past posts saying the same thing.

Different circumstances. I think I gave you a thumbs up when you were talking about rejecting a 3rd.

2nds are useful assets that regularly get turned in good hockey players like Stu Barnes and Jochen Hecht. Or disappointing ones like Jeff Skinner and Taylor Hall.

[Brawndo]

4 minutes ago, Thorny said:

The USNTDP is our organizational farm team 

If that nets Matt Beniers in July, I’ll allow it 

[Thorny]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

And they ***** retained 

 

Poor trade.

Also, we now pay bjork 1.6 mil over 2 years instead of Lazar 800k for one more year. Considering the hit rate of pics, it's possible this trade is a net negative

[rickshaw]

1 hour ago, Scottysabres said:

I liked Lazar.

He finally got to prove himself and now I fear he will be in and out of the lineup in Boston.

I have spoken to Curtis many times here in Kelowna and he really enjoyed Buffalo. I wonder how he will feel about this? I’m sure he will be happy for a chance to win, but will he play? I hope the best for him. Not a nicer kid will you meet. 
 

Not happy he was moved.