Brawndo 5,625 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 (edited) 22. It sounds like the Sabres are making some scouting changes. At the very least a shuffling, and then we see about external additions. Could be news on the assistant-GM front (Jason Karmanos very much a contender) this week. From Elliotte Friedman 31 Thoughts Today Edited March 25 by Brawndo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GASabresIUFAN 2,898 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Unless they hire more scouts, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LGR4GM 5,722 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Unless they hire more scouts, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. unless they complete restructure how they draft and what data they use to do it... yup deck chairs on the titanic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eleven 4,109 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 9 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Unless they hire more scouts, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. Why? Couldn't the same amount of BETTER scouts work? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brawndo 5,625 Posted March 23 Author Report Share Posted March 23 12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: unless they complete restructure how they draft and what data they use to do it... yup deck chairs on the titanic. I think this is their plan, along with an expansion of the analytics department. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brawndo 5,625 Posted March 23 Author Report Share Posted March 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kruppstahl said: Looks like at least some type of minor changes are coming to the scouting department this week. 22. It sounds like the Sabres are making some scouting changes. At the very least a shuffling, and then we see about external additions. Could be news on the assistant-GM front (Jason Karmanos very much a contender) this week. 2 hours ago, Trettioåtta said: 22. It sounds like the Sabres are making some scouting changes. At the very least a shuffling, and then we see about external additions. Could be news on the assistant-GM front (Jason Karmanos very much a contender) this week. From Friedman Credit to these two for putting this into other threads earlier Edited March 23 by Brawndo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorny 4,199 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I think this is their plan, along with an expansion of the analytics department. So no actual additional scouts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brawndo 5,625 Posted March 23 Author Report Share Posted March 23 14 minutes ago, Thorny said: So no actual additional scouts? I haven’t heard yet, I think the plan is 2-5 at least more scouts though 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thwomp! 219 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I haven’t heard yet, I think the plan is 2-5 at least more scouts though Maybe we can get up to at least one per league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matter2003 479 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Crazy to think how well run the Bills are and how crappily run the Sabres are by the same owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
That Aud Smell 1,358 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Crazy to think how well run the Bills are and how crappily run the Sabres are by the same owners. Welp. One franchise is part of a league that fairly prints money. The other ... not so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LGR4GM 5,722 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: I think this is their plan, along with an expansion of the analytics department. I will believe when I see it at this point. They have drafted like drunken children for 15 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jad1 604 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Crazy to think how well run the Bills are and how crappily run the Sabres are by the same owners. The Bills have a good GM and coach, the Sabres don't. The reason for that most likely comes down to luck, but that's it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LGR4GM 5,722 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 19 minutes ago, jad1 said: The Bills have a good GM and coach, the Sabres don't. The reason for that most likely comes down to luck, but that's it. That and the quality football demands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dudacek 6,830 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I will believe when I see it at this point. They have drafted like drunken children for 15 years. Under 2 different owners, four GMS and at least six head scouts. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TerryFolds 239 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 Nothing fundamentally changes until the fracker and his gold digging wife go bye bye. 1 2 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LGR4GM 5,722 Posted March 23 Report Share Posted March 23 27 minutes ago, dudacek said: Under 2 different owners, four GMS and at least six head scouts. Even if we only go back to 2011 it's still bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOF Wingman 6 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 If my memory serves me, we once had a scouting department that was the envy of the league. Then Golisano and Quinn decided we could reduce expenses by gutting the scouting department by going to video scouting. A number of scouts went out the door including Luce, Carriere, Benning, etc. that brought in many foundational pieces. If you ask me, that is when this mess started. Now can we get out of it and hire the best Personnel people available to build a championship contender? The question of the day. This is where we should be putting our resources. The most important people in your organization are Personnel people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Amerk 1,417 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, HOF Wingman said: If my memory serves me, we once had a scouting department that was the envy of the league. Then Golisano and Quinn decided we could reduce expenses by gutting the scouting department by going to video scouting. A number of scouts went out the door including Luce, Carriere, Benning, etc. that brought in many foundational pieces. If you ask me, that is when this mess started. Now can we get out of it and hire the best Personnel people available to build a championship contender? The question of the day. This is where we should be putting our resources. The most important people in your organization are Personnel people. You are a dreamer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin, Sabres Fan 711 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, HOF Wingman said: If my memory serves me, we once had a scouting department that was the envy of the league. Then Golisano and Quinn decided we could reduce expenses by gutting the scouting department by going to video scouting. A number of scouts went out the door including Luce, Carriere, Benning, etc. that brought in many foundational pieces. If you ask me, that is when this mess started. Now can we get out of it and hire the best Personnel people available to build a championship contender? The question of the day. This is where we should be putting our resources. The most important people in your organization are Personnel people. We need the volume of the Pegula era with the Quality before the lockout. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LGR4GM 5,722 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 12 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: We need the volume of the Pegula era with the Quality before the lockout. Until they start adding analytics and specifically league adjusted player cohorts, doesn't matter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brawndo 5,625 Posted March 24 Author Report Share Posted March 24 I think Scott Luce’s Contract is up with Vegas after this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PerreaultForever 1,375 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 So then firing everyone was just cost cutting and throwing away this season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOF Wingman 6 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 15 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said: You are a dreamer. I want to win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin, Sabres Fan 711 Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 11 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: So then firing everyone was just cost cutting and throwing away this season? Yes. Try this mentally. Compute your complete net worth. House. Retirement. Collectible stamps. Everything. Now, liquidate enough of it to have 1% in cash in your hands. Flush it down a toilet. Now listen to me. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 "YOU STOOPID ****! WHY COULDN'T YOU DO THAT TO 2% OF YOUR MONEY FOR MY ENTERTAINMENT? WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU MUST BE TRYING TO KILL PEOPLE! WHO CARES THAT IT IS YOUR MONEY! SPEND IT FOR ME! WHY DIDN'T I GET MORE?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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