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Ralph says Team needs to Physically Respond Against Pittsburgh


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1 minute ago, Andrew Amerk said:

Yeah, not sure what is wrong with this site. I spent way too long trying to fix the issue with the photos. 

 

 

 

I clicked on one of the downloads and was fully expecting the picture of the...erm...large black gentleman on the bed. Random internet links have ruined me, I now believe every link will be a well-endowed pornstar or a rick roll. 

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1 hour ago, Andrew Amerk said:

We’ve had nastiness on the team in the last decade. It didn’t make any difference. McCormick. John Scott. Kaleta. 

That's not nastiness, that's goonism. We need players that aren't scared to play hockey and be physical at the same time. Ex. Brandon Tanev for Pitt. 23 games played, 117 hits, 1 fight. No one on Buffalo comes close to those numbers. He is hard to play against. No one on the Sabres is hard to play against. They are softer than baby *****!!!

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4 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

That's not nastiness, that's goonism. We need players that aren't scared to play hockey and be physical at the same time. Ex. Brandon Tanev for Pitt. 23 games played, 117 hits, no fights. No one on Buffalo comes close to those numbers. He is hard to play against. No one on the Sabres is hard to play against. They are softer than baby *****!!!

We need goonism. Since it’s been abolished from the league, bringing it back would shock everyone. 

2021 is the perfect time for Broadstreet Bullies 2.0. All the teams are trying to be fast and skilled? Stomping them out will change their play REAL quickly. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Andrew Amerk said:

We need goonism. Since it’s been abolished from the league, bringing it back would shock everyone. 
 

 

Hey, I'm all for a bench clearing brawl, but don't think I'll ever see one again. Would love the Sabres to have just one guy on the team with a set of stainless steel balls. Ryan Reaves, Matt Martin were free agents the Sabres passed on. They never look at physical players, unless they thought Colin Miller was the answer. Team is a joke. 

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3 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

Hey, I'm all for a bench clearing brawl, but don't think I'll ever see one again. Would love the Sabres to have just one guy on the team with a set of stainless steel balls. Ryan Reaves, Matt Martin were free agents the Sabres passed on. They never look at physical players, unless they thought Colin Miller was the answer. Team is a joke. 

I’m only half joking, but a 2021 version of the broadstreet bullies would probably shock this league. 

If the NHL isn’t gonna call a knee on knee on Dahlin, why not? Build a team of pugilist players, since lineups of skill aren’t working out. 

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14 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

Hey, I'm all for a bench clearing brawl, but don't think I'll ever see one again. Would love the Sabres to have just one guy on the team with a set of stainless steel balls. Ryan Reaves, Matt Martin were free agents the Sabres passed on. They never look at physical players, unless they thought Colin Miller was the answer. Team is a joke. 

There was just one a couple years ago in a Flames game, can't remember who it was against. Don't think it was a battle of Alberta but maybe another Canadian team? You never know. It only takes one guy to start a brawl most times. 

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57 minutes ago, steveoath said:

Something like this is what's missing. Dunno if Sabourin is decent, but he can shift and chuck knucks.

 

We are missing either of those guys. The MTL AHL player is their leading scoring. Yeah he got his ass kicked, but he gave ‘er a go at least for his goalie. 

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You know for a coach that is supposed to be great on the mental side of the game.   KA should have noticed long time ago how all the heads of the players litterally are scraping the floor, these guys heads are so far down its depressing watching them play.   Only thing that can help is a new coach, don't ride out the season because this will carry on to the next one.

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8 hours ago, Claude Balls said:

Hey, I'm all for a bench clearing brawl, but don't think I'll ever see one again. Would love the Sabres to have just one guy on the team with a set of stainless steel balls. Ryan Reaves, Matt Martin were free agents the Sabres passed on. They never look at physical players, unless they thought Colin Miller was the answer. Team is a joke. 

You want the entire team to get an automatic 10 game suspension. I know they suck but the Rochester kids don't deserve to half to play here because the entire team is suspended. 

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You CANNOT just bring in a guy to hit things and fight. I yell this into this board constantly because that inevitably because the mythical solution to help the team. It is the Dalton Smith Rule. One physical depth player does not make the team physical. You need to start drafting more players like Cozens and JJ Peterka who have the natural tendency to play a gritty game but also have skill. The more of those players you get, the closer to the critical mass necessary to make your team physical. ROR was a good example but they dumped him away, physical and skilled. 

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I know how they can physically respond. A couple of the boys physically pick up Ralph, shove him in a broom closet, and barricade the door so he can't get out. When he pleads to be extricated, they respond with silence and walk away.

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15 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

You CANNOT just bring in a guy to hit things and fight. I yell this into this board constantly because that inevitably because the mythical solution to help the team. It is the Dalton Smith Rule. One physical depth player does not make the team physical. You need to start drafting more players like Cozens and JJ Peterka who have the natural tendency to play a gritty game but also have skill. The more of those players you get, the closer to the critical mass necessary to make your team physical. ROR was a good example but they dumped him away, physical and skilled. 

It also doesn't help to have guys trying to do something they are not capable of....that will not end well.

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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

You CANNOT just bring in a guy to hit things and fight. I yell this into this board constantly because that inevitably because the mythical solution to help the team. It is the Dalton Smith Rule. One physical depth player does not make the team physical. You need to start drafting more players like Cozens and JJ Peterka who have the natural tendency to play a gritty game but also have skill. The more of those players you get, the closer to the critical mass necessary to make your team physical. ROR was a good example but they dumped him away, physical and skilled. 

Yes.   Nobody likes to be in the foxhole all by himself, meaning a single hired gun will not magically make the Sabres a tougher team.  Players who have a backbone always appreciate knowing there are multiple teammates who think similarly and have each other's backs.  Such players need to have enough talent to justify being on the ice with regular shifts.  Strength in numbers.

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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

You CANNOT just bring in a guy to hit things and fight. I yell this into this board constantly because that inevitably because the mythical solution to help the team. It is the Dalton Smith Rule. One physical depth player does not make the team physical. You need to start drafting more players like Cozens and JJ Peterka who have the natural tendency to play a gritty game but also have skill. The more of those players you get, the closer to the critical mass necessary to make your team physical. ROR was a good example but they dumped him away, physical and skilled. 

Agree with this.   I would be drafting and developing more players in this mold, skilled and strong and tough, and yes they are rare.  There are smaller players that play a gritty game too.  Former Sabres Danny Gare and Michael Peca come to mind.   In todays game you still need players that hit and play the body, not like the ‘75 Flyers, more like ‘19 Blues.   You don’t have to start fights to play physical hockey, you just to play the body, and you need to stand up for yourself and your team.  
 

There is a a reason why Boston and a Philly consistently field teams that are hard to play against.  More recently Washington and St Louis too.  They look for these types of players. When you play these teams you are going to play physical or not fare well. 

 

Look at Dahlin.  He gets targeted more and more. His teammates can come too his rescue, which I haven’t seen yet, or he can do it himself and send a message.  He doesn’t have to win a fight either, just stand up and fight a good fight, just say enough.  The Gil Perreault story is well known.  Not a fighter, but as an 18 year old rookie he did have good size, a wide frame, some upper body muscle, and lots of core strength.  He was harassed for awhile and he addressed it as a rookie, even though the 1970’s Sabres team had plenty of guys willing to protect him.  After that he got more room to play and more respect around the league. 

 

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3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

You CANNOT just bring in a guy to hit things and fight. I yell this into this board constantly because that inevitably because the mythical solution to help the team. It is the Dalton Smith Rule. One physical depth player does not make the team physical. You need to start drafting more players like Cozens and JJ Peterka who have the natural tendency to play a gritty game but also have skill. The more of those players you get, the closer to the critical mass necessary to make your team physical. ROR was a good example but they dumped him away, physical and skilled. 

Dedicated fighters don't really exist in the league anymore. 

I said the exact same thing several years ago here about 1 or 2 tough guys not making the team tough.  I believe I said that in the context of signing Steve Ott.

Totally agree we need gritty, competitive players up and down the lineup.

Traditional Bruins teams are like this.  Someone takes a cheap shot at anyone on the ice and the other 4 descend on him instantly like a pack of wild dogs..despite being good, skilled players.  

That is the Boston response.

We are a million miles from having that type of lineup.

It just hasn't been in our selection criteria (obviously) for a very long time.

I'm not really sure what is in our selection criteria.  We seem to look for slow, soft players who are inherently uncompetitive by nature.

 

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2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

I only saw a few minutes of the game(the end). Was there physical payback for the hits on Cozens and Dahlin, or was it all lip service?

Nothing. As we expected.

Risto was his usual self, but hardly selected anyone, let along Aston-Reece or Ruhwedel. I think Ray said that Skinner took a shot at Ruhwedel -- I'm not going back to view it, so take my words with a grain of Crait soil -- but it looked to me like Skinner simply pivoted to his backwards stride to get moving in the other direction and happened to collide with Ruhwedel and maybe their legs tangled a bit. If it was going after Ruhwedel then it was the lamest attempt possible. Now my complete speculation: it was probably the only footage the production team found that early in the game of a Sabre within 10 feet of Ruhwedel so they used it. 

This team would have to grow a spine first before they learned how to show any backbone whatsoever.

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53 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Nothing. As we expected.

Risto was his usual self, but hardly selected anyone, let along Aston-Reece or Ruhwedel. I think Ray said that Skinner took a shot at Ruhwedel -- I'm not going back to view it, so take my words with a grain of Crait soil -- but it looked to me like Skinner simply pivoted to his backwards stride to get moving in the other direction and happened to collide with Ruhwedel and maybe their legs tangled a bit. If it was going after Ruhwedel then it was the lamest attempt possible. Now my complete speculation: it was probably the only footage the production team found that early in the game of a Sabre within 10 feet of Ruhwedel so they used it. 

This team would have to grow a spine first before they learned how to show any backbone whatsoever.

Skinner slew-footed him. It's funny that few noticed or cared.

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