Scottysabres Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, john wawrow said: Update to this. Story is in the works, but time line has been delayed by a few days. To be honest John, the return for ROR in that trade speaks volumes, to myself in any event. Botterill, having been in management capacity with an NHL organization was well aware of many factors in moving an asset like ROR. The price Murray paid to bring him to Buffalo, play style, workout regiment, consistencies in such, leadership qualities, and his overall worth to the organization as a team member as well as a potential trade piece. Why he accepted such a poultry package from St. Louis has to be owner driven on the bonus, in my humble opinion. Because most hockey fans that follow the sport, in particular the NHL, we're fully aware that wad a massive mistake the moment it happened. And that was before the Berglund issue was known publicly. I say it time and again, the Pegula's are well intentioned owners, but they need to step away from operations and bring in a proven experienced NHL franchise builder and let them do the job necessary to build the Sabres in to a respectable franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stads Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) Poultry package? A bunch of chicken would have been better than what we got back in that trade. I agree that the Pegulas mean well. That's a great start but the product needs to get better in a hurry. Go down the "Hockey Czar" route and see what happens. Edited March 10, 2021 by Stads 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Stads said: Poultry package? A bunch of chicken would have been better than what we got back in that trade. I agree that the Pegulas mean well. That's a great start but the product needs to get better in a hurry. Go down the "Hockey Czar" route and see what happens. Your comment about the turkey of the trade was just ducky. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/8/2021 at 10:23 AM, nucci said: I'm barely watching now. If they trade Eichel I'm done. Remember when all we wanted was a rich owner... If only we would have thought ahead and wished for a rich AND smart owner all these years. Lesson learnt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I know I posted this in the draft prospect thread, but it also seems appropriate here. Sabres are looking for help, but have no scouts for Finland, Russia, or the WHL. It's so bad, it's comical. WTF? How is this even possible? I'm sorry but this thing is awful top to bottom. We need new owners. There's just too much ingrained here to fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 Well, the Western Hockey League hasn’t played a game in a year, but it’s about to start real soon. In a fan-free bubble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thwomp! Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 hours ago, dudacek said: Well, the Western Hockey League hasn’t played a game in a year, but it’s about to start real soon. In a fan-free bubble. Good news! Maybe we'll have a scout by then? Or are scouts fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/8/2021 at 9:42 AM, nucci said: Pegulaville 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Scottysabres said: To be honest John, the return for ROR in that trade speaks volumes, to myself in any event. Botterill, having been in management capacity with an NHL organization was well aware of many factors in moving an asset like ROR. The price Murray paid to bring him to Buffalo, play style, workout regiment, consistencies in such, leadership qualities, and his overall worth to the organization as a team member as well as a potential trade piece. Why he accepted such a poultry package from St. Louis has to be owner driven on the bonus, in my humble opinion. Because most hockey fans that follow the sport, in particular the NHL, we're fully aware that wad a massive mistake the moment it happened. And that was before the Berglund issue was known publicly. I say it time and again, the Pegula's are well intentioned owners, but they need to step away from operations and bring in a proven experienced NHL franchise builder and let them do the job necessary to build the Sabres in to a respectable franchise. I feel like you rarely win trades like that. But to take on garbage salary in berglund and sobotka - both well overpaid and with term. And not get any of their top 3-5 prospects - I wanted kyrou, expected thomas... but tage thompson? Either our scouts are clueless, or he had his hand forced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Thwomp! said: WTF? How is this even possible? I'm sorry but this thing is awful top to bottom. We need new owners. There's just too much ingrained here to fix. Aint gonna happen. Maybe you could find a buyer - but they dont want to sell. No one can really make them sell except the NHL, and they wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Your comment about the turkey of the trade was just ducky. No @Duckyfirst came to discuss the Myers trade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 At this point, I may heave a heart attack and keel over on the spot, if KP and TP came to their senses and hired an experienced PoHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 @john wawrow I know it's your prerogative what questions you ask when it's time for press conferences, so please just take this as a humble request that I understand if you cannot or don't feel like fulfilling. A lot of Sabres fans just get so confused about why we don't do any meaningful experimentation or changes during massive stretches of meaningless hockey. 3 straight years now, we've had a ~2+ month stretch where we know we have no shot, and almost all of those years it has been the case that we were doing okay-to-very good, but then went on a several month long free fall with no actions taken to stem it, be it trades or firings or anything else. We want to know why they don't use this time to learn and establish new things. It is quite likely IMO that 2 of those seasons include riding it out with coaches that they plan on firing. Why not hire a guy now (between Boudreau, Gallant, Julien, you have THREE established coaches with a boatload of wins that could use this time as a very unique 2 month long training camp and boot camp for their system) to give fans hope and establish things, instead of waiting til the offseason and then having another "establishing and evaluation" kind of season next year? I understand money is tight right now, but this pattern isn't new, and I wonder if the Pegulas or our GMs have even thought of this as an idea, since they don't seem to mind letting these ungodly situations fester for ludicrously long times. They could extract value from the next two months, but once again, we all fear that that time will be wasted and relegated to the dustbin of history. Much appreciated either way, John. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Could it be that the original quote was "the Sabres are looking for help running the team into the ground" instead of "help running the team"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Could it be that the original quote was "the Sabres are looking for help running the team into the ground" instead of "help running the team"? It’s funny. I thought Chad misspelled ruining. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Presumably the Sabres haven't been able to find any of the help they are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said: Presumably the Sabres haven't been able to find any of the help they are looking for. They are looking for a Poultry Procurement Specialist. I hear Col Sanders has made his availability known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 54 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Could it be that the original quote was "the Sabres are looking for help running the team into the ground" instead of "help running the team"? 18 minutes ago, inkman said: They are looking for a Poultry Procurement Specialist. I hear Col Sanders has made his availability known. You tell that sonofabitch... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteThisAccount Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 11:47 AM, Randall Flagg said: @john wawrow I know it's your prerogative what questions you ask when it's time for press conferences, so please just take this as a humble request that I understand if you cannot or don't feel like fulfilling. A lot of Sabres fans just get so confused about why we don't do any meaningful experimentation or changes during massive stretches of meaningless hockey. 3 straight years now, we've had a ~2+ month stretch where we know we have no shot, and almost all of those years it has been the case that we were doing okay-to-very good, but then went on a several month long free fall with no actions taken to stem it, be it trades or firings or anything else. We want to know why they don't use this time to learn and establish new things. It is quite likely IMO that 2 of those seasons include riding it out with coaches that they plan on firing. Why not hire a guy now (between Boudreau, Gallant, Julien, you have THREE established coaches with a boatload of wins that could use this time as a very unique 2 month long training camp and boot camp for their system) to give fans hope and establish things, instead of waiting til the offseason and then having another "establishing and evaluation" kind of season next year? I understand money is tight right now, but this pattern isn't new, and I wonder if the Pegulas or our GMs have even thought of this as an idea, since they don't seem to mind letting these ungodly situations fester for ludicrously long times. They could extract value from the next two months, but once again, we all fear that that time will be wasted and relegated to the dustbin of history. Much appreciated either way, John. I have the answer to several of these questions, but busy covering tonight's game. Hopefully I can get around to answering them in the near future. Sorry to punt this down the road. jw 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, john wawrow said: I have the answer to several of these questions, but busy covering tonight's game. Hopefully I can get around to answering them in the near future. Sorry to punt this down the road. jw Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, john wawrow said: I have the answer to several of these questions, but busy covering tonight's game. Hopefully I can get around to answering them in the near future. Sorry to punt this down the road. jw No worries, really appreciate you taking the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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