DarthEbriate Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Thorny said: Favre was robbed of the SB MVP that year. By today’s standards there’s no way he wouldn’t get it. They give it to a QB every year now anyway. But he had 2 tds, a rush td, threw a 2pt convert, 107.9 rating (when you could hit the QB), 246 yards, no picks. As you definitely know - it wasn’t later Packers career Favre. That he wasn’t given the most valuable player cause of one play still doesn’t make sense I must disagree. Favre's two TD throws were to completely free releases against overmatched (speedwise) defenders with no safety help. A safety, either "Big Play" Willie Clay or rookie Lawyer Milloy was supposed to cover Freeman on a go route with no help? Otis Smith (a pylon by 1996) was supposed to cover Andre Rison with no safety help? They were pitch and catch. Favre's TD run was nice. Meanwhile, Desmond Howard had a 32-yard punt return (short field for Rison's TD), a 34-yard punt return (into NE territory, got a field goal), and then the game-sealer kickoff return. He had 244 return yards compared to Favre's 268 passing/rushing yards. It was Howard as the MVP. And a dominant Packers' d-line + some timely Evans/Butler blitzes that had Bledsoe hurrying his passes. 26 minutes ago, SwampD said: I believe it was two plays. IMO , Howard was absolutely the MVP of that game. Ha! Or more succinctly put like this. Edited January 23, 2022 by DarthEbriate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, The Ghost of Doohickie said: Sorry @Buffalonill. It's hard when your team has a great year and it ends in bitter disappointment. There is still time to jump on the Bills bandwagon. I can't speak for others, but I would welcome you anytime. Literally still in shock i can't believe both Adams and Rodgers are gone. I never Wanted to re live the "drury and briere" Exits .. This one hurts . Good luck 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, DarthEbriate said: I must disagree. Favre's two TD throws were to completely free releases against overmatched (speedwise) defenders with no safety help. A safety, either "Big Play" Willie Clay or rookie Lawyer Milloy was supposed to cover Freeman on a go route with no help? Otis Smith (a pylon by 1996) was supposed to cover Andre Rison with no safety help? They were pitch and catch. Favre's TD run was nice. Meanwhile, Desmond Howard had a 32-yard punt return (short field for Rison's TD), a 34-yard punt return (into NE territory, got a field goal), and then the game-sealer kickoff return. He had 244 return yards compared to Favre's 268 passing/rushing yards. It was Howard as the MVP. And a dominant Packers' d-line + some timely Evans/Butler blitzes that had Bledsoe hurrying his passes. Ha! Or more succinctly put like this. Still ticked about that KO return. Would've won the quarter in a $100/square pool w/out it. Going for 2 cost a chance at one of the satellites, too. Grrrrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: As proof, I rounded up a bit because it was in CAD instead of USD. 😘 You’re the man, dude! You’ll have to get me back on another wager soon Go Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, SwampD said: I believe it was two plays. IMO , Howard was absolutely the MVP of that game. 2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: I must disagree. Favre's two TD throws were to completely free releases against overmatched (speedwise) defenders with no safety help. A safety, either "Big Play" Willie Clay or rookie Lawyer Milloy was supposed to cover Freeman on a go route with no help? Otis Smith (a pylon by 1996) was supposed to cover Andre Rison with no safety help? They were pitch and catch. Favre's TD run was nice. Meanwhile, Desmond Howard had a 32-yard punt return (short field for Rison's TD), a 34-yard punt return (into NE territory, got a field goal), and then the game-sealer kickoff return. He had 244 return yards compared to Favre's 268 passing/rushing yards. It was Howard as the MVP. And a dominant Packers' d-line + some timely Evans/Butler blitzes that had Bledsoe hurrying his passes. Ha! Or more succinctly put like this. No chance, boys. The Packers likely win that game without Howard. They certainly don’t win it without Favre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) We are talking the MVP of the league, here. He accounted for 3 TDS (2 pass, 1 rush TD) to Howard’s 1. The receivers broke free for Favre’s TDs? So what lol. Last I checked Howard had pretty good blocking on his score, too. Favre famously audibles into the first long TD - that’s his play call. Favre gets FULL credit for that throw. Packers didn’t really look back from there. The genius was Favre’s reading of the D here - his brain for the game remains underrated Howard accounted for field position with a couple other plays but all purpose special teams yards aren’t exactly comparable to running/passing/throwing. Like I said - MVP of the league was Favre’s title that year - he would have accounted for much of those yards sans return. @DarthEbriate^ That was prime Favre. In the middle of 3 consecutive MVPs, who could go against any QB on any day - and it was his team that year. He manufactured that TD and he captained them to that win. Edited January 23, 2022 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) List of the top SB MVP snubs: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/features/10-worst-super-bowl-mvp-whiffs Favre in at #5 Edited January 23, 2022 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Btw you guys are alright with me hopefully you win it all I'm just burned out I'm not a Bandwagon fan but ill be hoping you guys get your first of many 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dreams Burn Down Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 TB12 just got flagged for cursing at the officials. One of the Seals of the Apocalypse is now broken. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dreams Burn Down said: TB12 just got flagged for cursing at the officials. One of the Seals of the Apocalypse is now broken. After a hit to the chin that drew blood. Say what you want about the calls in general, the refs completely botched that one. 30 yard swing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams Burn Down Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: After a hit to the chin that drew blood. Say what you want about the calls in general, the refs completely botched that one. 30 yard swing Is it just me or is NFL officiating just getting worse? I didn't think it was possible, but here we are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Thorny said: After a hit to the chin that drew blood. Say what you want about the calls in general, the refs completely botched that one. 30 yard swing Brady complains if he gets brushed by an opponent's hair. And at worst, it's a 15-yard swing because then it would be offsetting fouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Right now, Rams fans are trying really hard not to think about Superbowl LI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Thorny said: After a hit to the chin that drew blood. Say what you want about the calls in general, the refs completely botched that one. 30 yard swing Brady has 20 years of built up calls that have gone his way. I’m not shedding a tear for him.😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 OK LA---you are really choking now. Great.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 clutch sack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) can u effing believe it?--ohhh betw downs Edited January 23, 2022 by calti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 run runn runnnnnnnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Rut-roh Edited January 23, 2022 by carpandean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Tom Brady = Rasputin. 1 hour ago, Dreams Burn Down said: Is it just me or is NFL officiating just getting worse? I didn't think it was possible, but here we are. The NFC Championship game was scheduled as the late game on Sunday well before we knew a West Coast team (49ers) would be playing in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indabuff Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 LET'S ***** GO !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Wow *Rams imploding Edited January 23, 2022 by GoPre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 Now .....maybe there is a lesson there. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 I did not see that coming ... the comeback, yes, but not giving up the long bomb to make it all for naught. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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