Scottysabres 1,467 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Just now, Thorny said: They didn't do anything to fix the PP. They added Hall and thought that was enough. They literally, and I do mean literally, did nothing to fix anything. You can bring in all the talent you'd like, but it's definitely the team culture that is the problem here. They have heart, no grit, no size. Meet the new Buffalo Sabres, same as the old Sabres. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Let's Go B-Lo 962 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, erickompositör72 said: Out of shape? Round is a shape. -Casey Mittelstadt 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorny 3,469 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 (edited) Forwards are fine, just need better lines. D is a concern. Ullmark isn't a concern, Hutton is. PP is obviously an issue, but that runs beyond the players on the ice. Edited January 16 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pimlach 2,247 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, CallawaySabres said: Yup, this has to be done when they are 10 points out in a month Way too soon. Wait until we get close to playoffs. This team might start to gel. 2-1 with Ulhmark in net. 0 for 5 on power play against a rookie is the story. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scottysabres 1,467 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Just now, Pimlach said: Way too soon. Wait until we get close to playoffs. This team might start to gel. 2-1 with Ulhmark in net. 0 for 5 on power play against a rookie is the story. They need to show they can control play, control a game. They can't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 535 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 GO BILLS! You’re our only hope for happiness. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gatorman0519 1,090 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, StuckinFL said: How can a roster this talented be this bad? It's mind boggling. Coaching ... compare to McDermott, different sport but he is a master at deploying and utilizing his roster. See Torts in hockey. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dudacek 6,299 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Thorny said: The whole point of having secondary scoring is to help carry the load when the main line doesn't score Sure. Doesnt change what I said one iota. Jack looks hurt or out of shape. Ras looks polite. They need to be elite and they need to lead. Just two games but the runway is short. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Let's Go B-Lo 962 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Just now, Beer said: GO BILLS! You’re our only hope for happiness. Speaking of which I need to get down to the casino to enhance my happiness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scottysabres 1,467 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Just now, dudacek said: Sure. Doesnt change what I said one iota. Jack looks hurt or out of shape. Ras looks polite. They need to be elite and they need to lead. Just two games but the runway is short. Yep. It's definitely culture, and culture starts with coaching at the ice level. The talent is here, strategy and deployment of the talent is seriously lacking. The old schtick of buying in to the system or some other quick one liner isn't going to cut it. You just let another division team come in to your house and waltz away with 4 points, on a very short runway, un-fracking-acceptable, and that starts with urgency from those that are guiding the on ice game play imo. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gatorman0519 1,090 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 I predict a 2-6 start 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorny 3,469 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: Sure. Doesnt change what I said one iota. Jack looks hurt or out of shape. Ras looks polite. They need to be elite and they need to lead. Just two games but the runway is short. I like to point to the things we can easily fix by choice, tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pimlach 2,247 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 The state of this team makes me sad. 10 years of really bad hockey, plus the years of degradation before that. I hope RK can get them to play together better but with the poor Special Teams, mediocre at best goaltending, lack of team energy and grit, and in a tough and physical division it’s hard to be optimistic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scottysabres 1,467 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Gatorman0519 said: I predict a 2-6 start I'm actually going to say it, 0-8 start, this team is coached that badly. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorny 3,469 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Yep. It's definitely culture, and culture starts with coaching at the ice level. The talent is here, strategy and deployment of the talent is seriously lacking. The old schtick of buying in to the system or some other quick one liner isn't going to cut it. You just let another division team come in to your house and waltz away with 4 points, on a very short runway, un-fracking-acceptable, and that starts with urgency from those that are guiding the on ice game play imo. You agreed with his post but I agree with yours here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kruppstahl 794 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Out of playoffs by mid February? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Let's Go B-Lo 962 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Just now, Kruppstahl said: Out of playoffs by mid February? Sounds like we are on our usual pace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scottysabres 1,467 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Just now, Pimlach said: The state of this team makes me sad. 10 years of really bad hockey, plus the years of degradation before that. I hope RK can get them to play together better but with the poor Special Teams, mediocre at best goaltending, lack of team energy and grit, and in a tough and physical division it’s hard to be optimistic. And there in lay a big problem for the Sabres, they aren't physical nor tough in any sense of the words. They lack heavily in puck possession and puck control, and it shows, that's toughness, that's physical play. As a matter of fact, I'm just going to keep saying it, the only player on this roster capable of sustained physical play is McCabe. I see no others. If the team continues without changes, goaltending, defense, size, toughness/physicality and coaching, I see another 3 to 7 spot draft pick and another reason for Eichel to say I'm not interested in sticking around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pimlach 2,247 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Yep. It's definitely culture, and culture starts with coaching at the ice level. The talent is here, strategy and deployment of the talent is seriously lacking. The old schtick of buying in to the system or some other quick one liner isn't going to cut it. You just let another division team come in to your house and waltz away with 4 points, on a very short runway, un-fracking-acceptable, and that starts with urgency from those that are guiding the on ice game play imo. All the games are division games. We lost to an AHL goalie. Oh for 5 on the PP says it all. yesterday our PK was bad. Who the hell is coaching ST’s! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carmel Corn 613 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I'm actually going to say it, 0-8 start, this team is coached that badly. We have a head coach with less than 2 full seasons of NHL HC experience and a sub .500 record. I guess I should lower my expectations. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 535 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Is there an authoritarian coach available? These guys need someone to light a fire and hold people accountable. I also cannot believe Steve Smith is still employed by this organization. He is responsible for PK but what about PP? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scottysabres 1,467 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Just now, Pimlach said: All the games are division games. We lost to an AHL goalie. Oh for 5 on the PP says it all. yesterday our PK was bad. Who the hell is coaching ST’s! Good question. I look to the bench as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dudacek 6,299 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Risto was better. Reinhart was better. Staal wasn’t good, but he was better. Ullmark was good. Discipline was excellent. Team defence was solid. It didn’t look like a beer league game. Offence needs to be better. Lines need to be changed to reflect who’s earned it. Skinner needs more ice time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorny 3,469 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 (edited) I see a lot of doom and gloom where imo it should be frustration (which is the much better problem to have in this case, I'll add, in the macro) We could have won both these games with a few specific coaching changes. Ullmark starts game one, we win, Skinner plays with not Sheahan/Lazar, I like our chances based on the game he had. And that's with all the other crap that happened. I'm not sure why it surprises anyone that the guy who's never established himself as an NHL coach, who came from an entirely different field and job title altogether, struggles with the x's and o's. Is that even workable in a head coach? I'm losing my willingness to keep him in the NED category. Shouldn't they have brought in x and o's whiz assistants if they knew Ralph was over his head as a hockey strategist? Edited January 16 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 535 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 (edited) 1 minute ago, dudacek said: Risto was better. Reinhart was better. Staal wasn’t good, but he was better. Ullmark was good. Discipline was excellent. Team defence was solid. It didn’t look like a beer league game. Offence needs to be better. Lines need to be changed to reflect who’s earned it. Skinner needs more ice time. Lines need to reflect line chemistry. Edited January 16 by Beer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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