LGR4GM Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: He already is the best center I would take him first overall and never look back he will be Kopitar Is he? What makes you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Is he? What makes you say that? You just need to watch his last 2 years destroying His competition at a young level vs men I hate scouts just forgetting about a player that has a rough year overlooked Pastrnak and Barzal (beacuse of not good years ) Hell what happen with kotapar? When they get sick of a player that's so good they Find flaws that aren't even there.. who remembers the Couturier draft ? Was a lock for first overall then started finding bs flaws. Edited March 30, 2021 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 As long as we draft a power defenseman, and or a power forward, I will be happy! No more puck movers, but a body mover and hitter with skill. No more players that are weak on the puck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: I guess it's just a really poor draft for us to land on then if we don't end up with Beniers. All the more reason I'll stand firm on my "trade it" view You make it sound like this team is flush with wingers. Yes , hopefully they can get Berniers but if not the wingers will be a nice consolation prize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: You just need to watch his last 2 years destroying His competition at a young level vs men I hate scouts just forgetting about a player that has a rough year overlooked Pastrnak and Barzal (beacuse of not good years ) Hell what happen with kotapar? When they get sick of a player that's so good they Find flaws that aren't even there.. who remembers the Couturier draft ? Was a lock for first overall then started finding bs flaws. He didn't though. Last year he had I think 4 points in 12 games in Liiga. This year it is 8 points in 30 or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 This year was 6 points in 31 games. Even when he was in FinU20 he didn't blow the doors off. 21 points in 30 as an underaged is good for sure but not record setting that I am aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: You make it sound like this team is flush with wingers. Yes , hopefully they can get Berniers but if not the wingers will be a nice consolation prize Ya, that’s true, I did. My mistake. I meant it relatively. It not a class that’s going to come in high on a ranking of the past say 10 draft classes. I’m sure the player we get will be a good prospect, but often the projection at this point is much higher than that. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t get a centre but I acknowledge, depending on who’s list, there may not be a centre in range Edited March 30, 2021 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thorny said: Ya, that’s true, I did. My mistake. I meant it relatively. It not a class that’s going to come in high on a ranking of the past say 10 draft classes. I’m sure the player we get will be a good prospect, but often the projection at this point is much higher than that. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t get a centre but I acknowledge, depending on who’s list, there may not be a centre in range Basically depends on if Beniers gets drafted before we pick. At most that means drafted top 2 as the worse we can end up at is 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 I think if we were to draft 3rd, we can guarantee that 1 defender goes before our pick. There's too much defense talent for that not to happen. The final question is then are there 2 defenders above Beniers in most eyes or is there 1 defender and 1 forward (Eklund or Guenther for example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Looked more at Raty and Sillinger. Sillinger... idk there's something off and I can't place it so I wanna think on it. Raty has a nice shot. But I also want to think on him. I don't like either more than Beniers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Raty emerging as even a reasonable option at C next to Beniers, would be a very positive development for Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just dreaming here but in an unusual year like this the league should have a lottery for all of the non playoff teams for Arizona’s forfeited pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Raty emerging as even a reasonable option at C next to Beniers, would be a very positive development for Buffalo He's not. Not at 3 at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 52 in white is Raty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: He's not. Not at 3 at least. You should run the draft, you have a level of certainty that's unmatched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 McKenzie's most recent ranking from the 2020 draft has a 3 spot gap between Rossi and Quinn, and we took Quinn. His most recent ranking for this coming draft has a 4 spot gap between Beniers and Raty, to say "he's not", when viewing through the prism of the comparably little information we have relative to the team (including what their thought process even is) seems extreme. But whatever. It's your thread. I was just mentioning it would be sweet if they had a high evaluation of another centre. All else being equal, a centre is a better pick than a winger. It sounds though like the possibility of a centre being in range aside from Beniers is just impossible though, so I'll just hope for him or a pick trade. Cool beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Thorny said: You should run the draft, you have a level of certainty that's unmatched I should run the draft. David Farrance, Seth Jarvis, Nick Robertson, and Brock Boeser would all be Buffalo Sabres. Jonatan Berggren as well. In all seriousness, you suggested Raty might be a reasonable choice at #3, that is less reasonable than Quinn last year. There's just going to be better talent. 1 minute ago, Thorny said: McKenzie's most recent ranking from the 2020 draft has a 3 spot gap between Rossi and Quinn, and we took Quinn. His most recent ranking for this coming draft has a 4 spot gap between Beniers and Raty, to say "he's not", when viewing through the prism of the comparably little information we have relative to the team (including what their thought process even is) seems extreme. But whatever. It's your thread. I was just mentioning it would be sweet if they had a high evaluation of another centre. All else being equal, a centre is a better pick than a winger. It sounds though like the possibility of a centre being in range aside from Beniers is just impossible though, so I'll just hope for him or a pick trade. Cool beans. Well there's your first mistake, McKenzie. You gotta look at multiple lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Raty emerging as even a reasonable option at C next to Beniers, would be a very positive development for Buffalo Just now, LGR4GM said: I should run the draft. David Farrance, Seth Jarvis, Nick Robertson, and Brock Boeser would all be Buffalo Sabres. Jonatan Berggren as well. In all seriousness, you suggested Raty might be a reasonable choice at #3, that is less reasonable than Quinn last year. There's just going to be better talent. nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: nope And I said he isn't a reasonable choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: And I said he isn't a reasonable choice. I didn't suggest anything. You are the only one dealing in certainty, here. Anyways, should be a fun draft. Hopefully they can land Beniers. We'll see on draft day! Edited March 31, 2021 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: But whatever. It's your thread. I was just mentioning it would be sweet if they had a high evaluation of another centre. All else being equal, a centre is a better pick than a winger. It sounds though like the possibility of a centre being in range aside from Beniers is just impossible though, so I'll just hope for him or a pick trade. Cool beans. Not my thread. I didn't start it and don't see how anyone could own a thread. We simply disagree that Raty is in the range where we will be drafting if Beniers is gone. (2-3). Just now, Thorny said: I didn't suggest anything. You are the only one dealing in certainty, here. I am giving you my opinion with certainty. Here I will help you. I, Liger, do not view Raty as a reasonable option at pick #3 if Matt Beniers has already been selected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Ep Rinkside had Rossi 4 and Quinn 16. Just for an FYI and they do way more work than McKenzie. McKeen's is another place for a good draft guide and I usually read both of them. EP also had Stutzle 8th so again, gotta look at multiples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Someone wants to argue for Raty at #3 go for it. We don't have to have consensus here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 20 hours ago, Thorny said: Seems a statistically unlikely thing to happen. How many years in the past several have we got the guy we all said we wanted going in? I can think of three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: I can think of three. Pre lotto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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