Zamboni Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 As anyone with eyes could see, for the 6th and 7th round, the Buffalo Sabres did no worse, and no better than the vast vast majority of teams. So they didn’t “under perform” or "over perform" compared to almost every team. Who’s had NHL time? So i took a 10 year sample. From 2008 - 2017. In my opinion it’s too soon to judge anyone drafted in the 5th round in 2018 or more recently to determine if a team drafted well in the 5th. If you disagree, then post the more recent years if you want. I added the Buffalo picks (if there are any) just to see the names. And yes, i am well aware that this round is pretty much a crap shoot, but i think there’s no harm in giving a little credit to the teams. 2008 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 122 Tampa Bay Dustin Tokarski G 34 0 2 2 2 2016-17 123 Los Angeles Andrei Loktionov C 155 22 26 48 22 2013-14 126 NY Islanders Kevin Poulin G 50 0 1 1 0 2014-15 127 Columbus Matt Calvert L 548 95 105 200 370 2019-20 128 Toronto Greg Pateryn D 267 4 35 39 162 2019-20 133 Edmonton Philippe Cornet L 2 0 1 1 0 2011-12 134 Buffalo Jacob Lagace L 135 Columbus Tomas Kubalik R 12 1 3 4 6 2011-12 137 Columbus Brent Regner D 7 0 0 0 4 2015-16 139 Ottawa Mark Borowiecki D 375 15 36 51 647 2019-20 140 Colorado Mark Olver C 74 10 12 22 39 2012-13 148 NY Islanders Matt Martin L 692 61 70 131 946 2019-20 149 Dallas Philip Larsen D 151 9 28 37 46 2016-17 150 Pittsburgh Alexander Pechurskiy G 1 0 0 0 0 2009-10 —————————————————————————— 2009 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 122 NY Islanders Anton Klementyev D 1 0 0 0 0 2009-10 127 NY Rangers Roman Horak C 84 6 13 19 16 2013-14 129 Dallas Tomas Vincour R 95 7 10 17 12 2014-15 130 Ottawa Mike Hoffman L 493 172 187 359 177 2019-20 132 Nashville Gabriel Bourque L 413 40 63 103 75 2019-20 134 Buffalo Mark Adams D 135 Florida Corban Knight C 52 4 8 12 4 2018-19 138 Florida Wade Megan C 15 1 1 2 2 2018-19 139 Montreal Gabriel Dumont C 90 4 5 9 48 2019-20 147 San Jose Philip Varone C 97 8 9 17 26 2018-19 149 Chicago Marcus Kruger C 520 38 85 123 234 2018-19 150 Detroit Nick Jensen D 278 6 50 56 73 2019-20 ————————————————————————— 2010 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 121 Edmonton Tyler Bunz G 1 0 0 0 0 2014-15 122 Anaheim Chris Wagner R 317 35 23 58 171 2019-20 123 Florida Zach Hyman L 302 71 81 152 173 2019-20 129 San Jose Freddie Hamilton C 75 4 2 6 12 2017-18 131 Dallas John Klingberg D 425 58 233 291 156 2019-20 132 Anaheim Tim Heed D 105 6 23 29 20 2019-20 133 Calgary Micheal Ferland L 335 60 74 134 200 2019-20 135 Boston Justin Florek F 4 1 1 2 0 2013-14 138 Phoenix Louis Domingue G 139 0 2 2 6 2019-20 140 Pittsburgh Kenny Agostino L 85 8 22 30 40 2018-19 141 Detroit Petr Mrazek G 263 0 3 3 14 2019-20 143 Buffalo Gregg Sutch R 144 Toronto Sam Carrick C 34 2 3 5 15 2019-20 147 Montreal Brendan Gallagher R 547 173 161 334 312 2019-20 148 Los Angeles Kevin Gravel D 109 1 12 13 12 2019-20 —————————————————————————— 2011 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 125 NY Islanders John Persson L 10 1 0 1 6 2013-14 126 Ottawa Fredrik Claesson D 155 7 21 28 50 2019-20 129 New Jersey Blake Pietila L 38 1 3 4 12 2018-19 131 Minnesota Nick Seeler D 105 2 10 12 100 2019-20 133 San Jose Sean Kuraly C 223 20 39 59 114 2019-20 137 Buffalo Alex Lepkowski D 138 Montreal Darren Dietz D 13 1 4 5 13 2015-16 139 Chicago Andrew Shaw R 530 114 129 243 567 2019-20 143 Anaheim Max Friberg L 6 0 0 0 2 2015-16 144 Pittsburgh Dominik Uher C 2 0 0 0 0 2014-15 148 Tampa Bay Nikita Nesterov D 132 9 24 33 81 2016-17 150 Vancouver Frankie Corrado D 76 3 5 8 40 2017-18 151 Boston Rob O'Gara D 33 0 3 3 6 2017-18 —————————————————————- 2012 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 122 Montreal Charles Hudon L 125 14 27 41 56 2019-20 126 Toronto Dominic Toninato C 85 5 9 14 49 2019-20 129 Carolina Brendan Woods C 7 0 0 0 7 2015-16 130 Winnipeg Connor Hellebuyck G 270 0 7 7 4 2019-20 131 Boston Seth Griffith C 79 8 11 19 24 2017-18 133 Buffalo Logan Nelson C 137 Washington Connor Carrick D 230 12 35 47 152 2019-20 138 San Jose Danny O'Regan C 25 1 4 5 2 2018-19 147 Vancouver Ben Hutton D 341 15 71 86 125 2019-20 150 New Jersey Alexander Kerfoot C 222 43 70 113 98 2019-20 151 Los Angeles Colin Miller D 301 23 87 110 213 2019-20 ———————————————————————————- 2013 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 123 Colorado Will Butcher D 215 13 82 95 32 2019-20 124 Tampa Bay Kristers Gudlevskis G 3 0 0 0 0 2016-17 125 Nashville Saku Maenalanen R 34 4 4 8 20 2018-19 127 Winnipeg Tucker Poolman D 81 5 13 18 24 2019-20 129 Buffalo Cal Petersen G 19 0 0 0 0 2019-20 130 Buffalo Gustav Possler R 133 Phoenix Connor Clifton D 50 2 1 3 27 2019-20 134 Chicago Luke Johnson C 18 0 1 1 8 2019-20 137 Minnesota Carson Soucy D 58 7 7 14 20 2019-20 143 Buffalo Anthony Florentino D 148 Los Angeles Jonny Brodzinski C 57 6 6 12 10 2019-20 ——————————————————————————- 2014 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 121 Buffalo Max Willman L 126 Vancouver Gustav Forsling D 122 8 19 27 42 2018-19 127 Carolina Clark Bishop C 25 1 3 4 10 2019-20 129 Winnipeg C.J. Suess F 1 0 0 0 0 2019-20 134 Washington Shane Gersich L 3 0 1 1 0 2017-18 138 Philadelphia Oskar Lindblom L 134 30 27 57 32 2019-20 144 Colorado Anton Lindholm D 66 0 5 5 16 2019-20 145 Pittsburgh Anthony Angello C 8 1 0 1 4 2019-20 146 Boston Anders Bjork L 108 14 20 34 18 2019-20 149 San Jose Rourke Chartier C 13 1 0 1 2 2018-19 ———————————————————————— 2015 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 122 Buffalo Devante Stephens D 123 Arizona Conor Garland R 115 35 22 57 32 2019-20 124 Edmonton Ethan Bear D 89 6 19 25 43 2019-20 125 Toronto Dmytro Timashov L 44 4 5 9 16 2019-20 127 St. Louis Niko Mikkola D 5 0 1 1 0 2019-20 128 Philadelphia David Kase R 6 1 0 1 0 2019-20 137 Pittsburgh Dominik Simon C 173 19 45 64 46 2019-20 139 Ottawa Christian Jaros D 76 1 12 13 33 2019-20 142 San Jose Rudolfs Balcers L 51 6 11 17 10 2019-20 148 Anaheim Troy Terry R 81 8 20 28 8 2019-20 149 Vancouver Adam Gaudette C 120 17 28 45 55 2019-20 ———————————————————————————— 2016 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 129 Buffalo Philip Nyberg D 130 Buffalo Vojtech Budik D 131 Colorado Adam Werner G 2 0 0 0 0 2019-20 133 Ottawa Max Lajoie D 62 7 8 15 20 2019-20 141 NY Rangers Tim Gettinger L 6 0 1 1 0 2019-20 145 Washington Beck Malenstyn L 3 0 0 0 0 2019-20 146 Dallas Nicholas Caamano R 12 1 1 2 4 2019-20 ———————————————————————— 2017 Draft Pick number/Drafting Team/Player/Position/NHL games played/Goals/Assists/Points/PIM’s/Last NHL season 129 New Jersey Gilles Senn G 2 0 0 0 0 2019-20 139 NY Islanders Sebastian Aho D 22 1 3 4 6 2017-18 ————————————————————————— In my opinion, Buffalo did no worse or better than most of the teams in the 5th round. Of course it t would have been nice to grab one or two gems. Some teams grabbed a gem or two in this 10 year span. Ottawa overall, did pretty well in this 10 year period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mustache of God Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Thanks for putting this together. If I'm reading this right the only 5th round pick we've had in the last decade that's played a in the NHL is Cal Peterson? Seems not great but it's rare those late round picks pan out which is why I never really care who we draft after round 2. I'm sure Olofsson would like a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 This will be interesting when we get to rounds 2 and 3, but my gut was telling me we were doing no worse than the rest of the league in the late rounds. These picks are hope and prayer picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mustache of God said: Thanks for putting this together. Doubly so! I look forward to round 4. Thanks, @Zamboni! I'm of two minds on this round. The positive: Hey, Cal Petersen still has a good shot to be a regular NHL-level goalie, whether starter or backup, and make a career of it. So --- we hit on one pick (not the development/retention, but the pick). I don't know if we'd have had to protect him in the Vegas expansion, but an Ullmark/Petersen tandem last year would've been nice. The negative is across an entire decade --- almost nothing! We had one player (the first, 2008's Lagace) even make a minor impact in the minor leagues. None of the others even made a contribution in Rochester. They're all longshots, sure, but looking through the list: Griffith, O'Regan, Varone all are top-6 AHL-caliber players. Tokarski will be a fine AHL player for Rochester this season. That's what I'd expect to see in this round over 10 years: an AHL veteran-type player here or there. It's not like we had the talent to hold them off the Pirates/Amerks roster. That's Bantha fodder-level drafting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 No better or worse? How did you get that that? None of our picks ever played a game except for a goalie that played 19 games and would not sign with us. That is terrible. Really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Pimlach said: No better or worse? How did you get that that? None of our picks ever played a game except for a goalie that played 19 games and would not sign with us. That is terrible. Really bad. I think what this exercise is proving that most teams are terrible or really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Hellebuyck!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 big miss on Gallagher. Sutch a waste there. Couple grit guys we could have used, Matt Martin, Gaudette. Maybe Anders Bjork but I think the jury's still out on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, dudacek said: I think what this exercise is proving that most teams are terrible or really bad. Yup. Very, very few success stories in the 5th rd. Edited December 12, 2020 by Weave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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