JohnC Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, Taro T said: If he makes it to the hearing, it'll be a 1 year deal. He elected arbitration, Sabres will elect term & won't ask for a 2 year deal as that takes him to UFA. If they get a deal prior to the hearing, am expecting it to either be 1 year or 5+ years. You give an excellent and understandable explanation but because I am so thickheaded it still leaves me a little confused. If the Sabres decide to give him a one year term what is his status after the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, JohnC said: You give an excellent and understandable explanation but because I am so thickheaded it still leaves me a little confused. If the Sabres decide to give him a one year term what is his status after the year? He will be an RFA again next off season if he signs a 1 year deal this off season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielor Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Linus 2.5 - 3 Olof - 3.5 - 4 Reinhart - 6 - 6.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Korpisalo had 127 NHL games when he got his deal. Ullmark has 97. Jarry has 62 games but had a 2.43 w 921 last season. Grubauer has 174 games and 3 seasons with 30+ starts and better number then Ullmark ever posted. Grubauer was coming off seasons of 22, 24 and 35 games when he signed his deal. Jarry, 26, 2 and 33 Korpisalo 18, 27, and 37 Ullmark 5, 37 and 34 They are all goalies of about the same vintage who had shown hints they could be a starter, but not proven it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 It's only a 1 or 2 year deal, even if it's 3.25 it's fine. Reinhart and Olofsson are the 2 to be concerned on impo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, dudacek said: Grubauer was coming off seasons of 22, 24 and 35 games when he signed his deal. Jarry, 26, 2 and 33 Korpisalo 18, 27, and 37 Ullmark 5, 37 and 34 They are all goalies of about the same vintage who had shown hints they could be a starter, but not proven it. Aren't we giving NHL arbitrators a bit more credit than due? From what I remember when it comes to middling players they usually just take the average of the two offers (I'm still drinking coffee and waking up so my brain isn't ready look up examples yet). I feel like even pulling this together goes above an beyond what their arbitrators actually do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) On 10/23/2020 at 7:05 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: I figured on Ullmark 2 year 2.8 to 3 per season, VO at 3 for 1 year and 3.5 for 2. Reinhart, I think Gallagher’s deal is close. Could be as low at 5.5 for a 1 year deal. 5.2 for a year is a hockey bargain. I think we can expect (hope?) the other deals come in low also giving us some cap room. I'm not really surprised the Reinhart and his people kicked the can down the road a year. If he breaks out this season, a significant possibility with the addition of Hall, then he'll have move leverage in a hopefully post pandemic world. Edited October 25, 2020 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Taro T said: If he makes it to the hearing, it'll be a 1 year deal. He elected arbitration, Sabres will elect term & won't ask for a 2 year deal as that takes him to UFA. If they get a deal prior to the hearing, am expecting it to either be 1 year or 5+ years. You took a shot and hit the bulls eye. 🍺 Edited October 25, 2020 by JohnC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 20 hours ago, Thorny said: He won't settle for that low considering the current median re: his number and the team's. Yup, and it was a weak sauce offer sheet. Especially considering Carolina's cap situation at the time. It simply served up the contract for Carolina to sign. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 Do we know if the Sabres chose one year or two with Linus? If it is one he will become a UFA and we have no goalie under contract at the end of this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 25, 2020 Report Share Posted October 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, dudacek said: Do we know if the Sabres chose one year or two with Linus? If it is one he will become a UFA and we have no goalie under contract at the end of this season. He only has 1 year of RFA status remaining, so his arbitrated contract will necessarily be a 1 year deal. The team can't use arbitration to delay a player from becoming a UFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 down, one to go. I thought we'd come in at about 13 mill for all three. So far we are at 8 mill. If we can get VO in at 3, that would put us in at 11 for the 3. Overall that cap hit would be 78mill plus 1.5 for carryover bonus and a roster of 21 players (12F, 7F & 2G). That leaves one roster spot to be earned by one of Asplund, Routsalainen, Cozens or Mittelstadt. I wonder if that roster spot might also be determined about whether the contender has a place to play other then the Sabres. For Example: What if the CHL is playing, and the AHL isn't? In this case, I can see Asplund and Routsalainen being loaned to Europe, Cozens goes to the CHL and Mittelstadt makes the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 Once the first folks started signing before arbitration I said 11M upthread (thinking approximately 2.5, 3, 5.5). And now I'm thinking that's still easily in play. We can even make an additional move like a Kahun or Duclair to force Thompson to prove it in Rochester, then trade an asset in-season, if needed. (Or package something solid for a goalie of the playoff run!). This is a shrewd start for GM Sheevyn. But that should be expected after his 10-year phantom menace to overthrow the reigning chancellors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 26, 2020 Report Share Posted October 26, 2020 If we sign Olofsson for 3, we'll have a 22 man roster at just shy of 79 million, with a little over 2.5 mil in cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GASabresIUFAN Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 18 hours ago, Thorny said: If we sign Olofsson for 3, we'll have a 22 man roster at just shy of 79 million, with a little over 2.5 mil in cap space. Don't forget the 1.5 in bonuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Don't forget the 1.5 in bonuses I think it already accounts for that. Edit - By my math it does Edited October 27, 2020 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Thorny said: I think it already accounts for that. I think your right. If Capfriendly's numbers are right we are at only 78 mill with VO signed at 3. Forwards 48.8, D 18.525, G 5.35, BO&Over 2.279 = 74.954 Now add 3 for VO and .900 for one of Cozens/Mitts/Routsalainen/Whomever and the Sabres have a full roster at 78.8542. That leaves plenty of room for Hutton (2.75) to AZ for Raanta (4.25). Awesome! Edited October 27, 2020 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Here's a good benchmark for Olofsson. Bertuzzi, 25 years old, 21goals, 72 games Olofsson, 25 years old, 20goals, 54 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Here's a good benchmark for Olofsson. Bertuzzi, 25 years old, 21goals, 72 games Olofsson, 25 years old, 20goals, 54 games Basically should put a ceiling on Olofsson, IMO. Bertuzzi has put up those numbers multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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