sabresparaavida Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Taro T said: Can somebody PLEASE explain why everybody here keeps saying that Irwin is a RD? According to HockeyDB and according to the Sabres he shoots left. Also, images of him all show him holding a Lefty hockey stick. So wtf does EVERYBODY keep listing him as a RD? Because it’s based on the side you play, not how you shoot. Some Rd shoot left, some left d shoot right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said: Because it’s based on the side you play, not how you shoot. Some Rd shoot left, some left d shoot right. And he has played both sides throughout his career. So has Montour, but not 1 single person calls him a LD. It is just weird IMHO. Especially when he figures if he plays in Buffalo it will most likely be on the left side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Taro T said: And he has played both sides throughout his career. So has Montour, but not 1 single person calls him a LD. It is just weird IMHO. Especially when he figures if he plays in Buffalo it will most likely be on the left side. Bingo. Even if he has played a lot of RD, he is going to play LD in Buffalo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taro T said: Can somebody PLEASE explain why everybody here keeps saying that Irwin is a RD? According to HockeyDB and according to the Sabres he shoots left. Also, images of him all show him holding a Lefty hockey stick. So wtf does EVERYBODY keep listing him as a RD? He specifically listed the opening at LD as one of the reasons he signed with Buffalo. Then again, there are countless people outside of Buffalo who still think of Sam Reinhart as a centre. That's the same Sam Reinhart who played a grand total of 9 games as a 4th line centre in 2014 and eight games between Benoit Pouliot and Seth Griffith in 2017. And 380+ games, including the past 200 or so consecutively, at RW. There are a lot of people who work at a national level who don't actually watch the Sabres. Edited October 27, 2020 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, Curt said: Bingo. Even if he has played a lot of RD, he is going to play LD in Buffalo. So, again my question: wtf does everybody keep claiming he's a RD? Right now he's either 3rd or 4th on the depth chart there depending on whether they plan on playing Miller moving Montour to 3LD or having Miller at his familiar 7th D-man role he held last year. (Realizing there will be some shakeup of the RHD, but unless another LHD comes in, after that he's likely in the lineup.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, dudacek said: He specifically listed the opening at LD as one of the reasons he signed with Buffalo. Then again, there are countless people outside of Buffalo who still think of Sam Reinhart as a centre. That's the same Sam Reinhart who played a grand total of 9 games as a 4th line centre in 2014 and eight games between Benoit Pouliot and Seth Griffith in 2017. And 380+ games, including the past 200 or so consecutively, at RW. And, my question wasn't regarding the national media, it was why quality posters like Thorny & IKP are now having posts that list him as a RD. Everybody is doing it and it makes no sense IMHO. people here at least don't call Reinhart a C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Taro T said: Can somebody PLEASE explain why everybody here keeps saying that Irwin is a RD? According to HockeyDB and according to the Sabres he shoots left. Also, images of him all show him holding a Lefty hockey stick. So wtf does EVERYBODY keep listing him as a RD? He plays on the left. He just gave an interview where he said Buffalo was desirable to him because he plays on the left and our backlog is on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, Taro T said: And, my question wasn't regarding the national media, it was why quality posters like Thorny & IKP are now having posts that list him as a RD. Everybody is doing it and it makes no sense IMHO. people here at least don't call Reinhart a C. I have no idea what you are talking about. This just isn't true - provide the evidence of your claim I am a quality poster or rescind your claim. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, Taro T said: So, again my question: wtf does everybody keep claiming he's a RD? Right now he's either 3rd or 4th on the depth chart there depending on whether they plan on playing Miller moving Montour to 3LD or having Miller at his familiar 7th D-man role he held last year. (Realizing there will be some shakeup of the RHD, but unless another LHD comes in, after that he's likely in the lineup.) He is listed as a RD on cap friendly. It could be as simple as that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Curt said: He is listed as a RD on cap friendly. It could be as simple as that. Ya I've always considered him a LD, Taro must have seen my screenshotted capfriendly lineup. Maybe my OCD took over subconsciously and had to have the guy listed as a RD on the site on the right. He should be on the left 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 In before GA says I have Thompson on the wrong side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Curt said: He is listed as a RD on cap friendly. It could be as simple as that. This is the reason. CF tends to be a little more specific and a little more up to date on player positions than other outlets, which usually only list "D" and are often behind the times (listing Reinhart as a C, for example). No site is perfect on this, partly because many players have their usage changed frequently. It's good that Irwin's a left-shot D that could theoretically play both sides; it's increased player versatility. But if we're looking for an improved defense corp, we should be finding good players that are specialized and making the roster versatile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 45 minutes ago, IKnowPhysics said: This is the reason. CF tends to be a little more specific and a little more up to date on player positions than other outlets, which usually only list "D" and are often behind the times (listing Reinhart as a C, for example). No site is perfect on this, partly because many players have their usage changed frequently. It's good that Irwin's a left-shot D that could theoretically play both sides; it's increased player versatility. But if we're looking for an improved defense corp, we should be finding good players that are specialized and making the roster versatile. Yeah, I’m not excited for Irwin to be playing regularly as 3LD, but he is a nice option as 7th or 8th D as a guy who can play either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 As of 10:40am EST today, 10/29/20, the Sabres numbers are as follows: The salary cap for 2020-21 is $81.5M. The current Sabres cap space, not counting minimum qualifying offers ($6.608M), is $3.496M. The total NHL roster is currently: 12F, 9D, 2G. Cap committed to NHL players under contract (12F, 7D, 2G), totaling $75.725M of salary (new contracts in bold): Eichel, $10M Skinner, $9M Hall, $8M Okposo, $6M Reinhart, $5.2M Staal, $3.25M Olofsson, $3.05M Eakin, $2.25M Girgensens, $2.2M Thompson, $1.4M Lazar, $0.8M Rieder, $0.7M ($51.85M for 12F) Ristolainen (RD), $5.4M Miller (RD), $3.875M Montour (RD), $3.85M McCabe (LD), $2.85M Dahlin (LD), $0.925M Jokiharju (RD), $0.925M Irwin (yo mama), $0.7M ($18.525M for 7D) Hutton, $2.75M Ullmark, $2.6M ($5.35M for Gs) Buyout: Hodgson, $0.792M Carryover Bonus Overages: $1.4875M For RFAs and UFAs and non-rostered players, this leaves $81.5M - $75.725M - $0.792M - $1.4875= $3.496M RFAs that have been qualified and not yet signed (1D) and previous salary, totaling $0.925M, and minimum qualifying offers, totaling $0.8325M: Pilut, $0.925M - min $0.8325M Non-rostered players and NHL cap hit if rostered (11F, 7D, 2G; doesn't include UFAs): Biro, $0.925M Ruotsalainen, $0.925M Cozens, $0.894M Asplund, $0.845M Murray, $0.775M Pekar, $0.764M Oglevie, $0.750M DiPietro $0.75M Fogarty, $0.7M Dea, $0.7M CJ Smith, $0.7M Mittelstadt, QO - $0.8325 Samuelsson, $0.925M Bryson, $0.889M Borgen, $0.864M Fitzgerald, $0.858M Laaksonen, $0.853M Nelson, $0.7M Davidson, $0.7M K6, $0.778 Jonas Johansson, $0.7M Most info sourced from CapFriendly. Potential performance bonuses for 2020-21 are $3.488M (if triggered, performance bonuses extending beyond this year's cap space are applied as a cap hit in 2021-22). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted October 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Analysis: The current cap space ($3.496M) is suspiciously close to the performance bonuses owed ($3.488M) for the full roster (12F, 7D, 2G). If Kevyn Adams believes the performance bonuses will be triggered and he wants to sign large number of significant contracts next year (Hall, Reinhart, Staal, Dahlin, McCabe, Montour, Jokiharju, et al), I could see him chosing to not spend any more cap for most of this year (perhaps until the deadline for a playoff run). That doesn't mean we couldn't trade, but the Adams might try to keep any trades salary-neutral. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootica Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 If Cozens makes the team as expected, that gives us a 22 man roster with $2.602M in cap space. That also raises our potential performance bonuses to $4.338M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.