triumph_communes Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Both Mittelstadt and Thompson have no reason to be in our line up. They can’t outplay anyone in the top 6 and we have better role players in all except Okposo, who wears a letter Does a team like Arizona bite on either one of them for a goalie? Or are we stuck on hoping Botterill will take them back? Edited January 27, 2021 by triumph_communes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielor Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 3:52 PM, LGR4GM said: Who here thinks MA Fleury makes us better and if so by how many wins? If I'm comparing to Hutton, who I'd have going the other way in any hypothetical deal, then 5 wins at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Gabrielor said: If I'm comparing to Hutton, who I'd have going the other way in any hypothetical deal, then 5 wins at least. 5 wins at least? In how many games? 20? Seems dubious unless there is a lengthy Ullmark absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Seravalli at TSN reporting that the Blues are talking with other teams about Vince Dunn. He was scratched last game and is in the coach’s doghouse. Straight up for Miller? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Curt said: 5 wins at least? In how many games? 20? Seems dubious unless there is a lengthy Ullmark absence. Well, if they trade for MAF, there is at least a 50/50 chance that MAF becomes the #1 goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Well, if they trade for MAF, there is at least a 50/50 chance that MAF becomes the #1 goalie. How many wins better that Ullmark do you think Fleury is, over the remaining games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, nfreeman said: Well, if they trade for MAF, there is at least a 50/50 chance that MAF becomes the #1 goalie. I'm not saying you are wrong because we are talking hypotheticals and opinions but I just don't envision the organization signing MAF to be the #1 goalie. If there is a trade for a goalie it would be to replace Hutton as our #2. My sense is the organization is invested in Ullmark and is comfortable with him being the #1. Maybe I'm being too stubborn on the goalie issue but I don't believe the organization is as troubled with Hutton being the backup as the fanbase is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Curt said: How many wins better that Ullmark do you think Fleury is, over the remaining games? I think a combo of Fleury-Ullmark is substantially better than Ullmark-Hutton. There are 49 games left. With Ullmark-Hutton, it's hard to see them doing much better than 25-24 (with that combo they were 30-39 last year and 33-49 the previous year). With Fleury-Ullmark, I could see them going 31-18 or so, which would put them in the playoffs. As always, it depends on the price. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, JohnC said: Maybe I'm being too stubborn on the goalie issue but I don't believe the organization is as troubled with Hutton being the backup as the fanbase is. If that is the case, then the organization is also being “stubborn”. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm not saying you are wrong because we are talking hypotheticals and opinions but I just don't envision the organization signing MAF to be the #1 goalie. If there is a trade for a goalie it would be to replace Hutton as our #2. My sense is the organization is invested in Ullmark and is comfortable with him being the #1. Maybe I'm being too stubborn on the goalie issue but I don't believe the organization is as troubled with Hutton being the backup as the fanbase is. If the bolded were true they would've given him more than a 1-year deal that walks him to UFA. There is no reason in the world for any rational team to be invested in Ullmark and not to be interested in an upgrade, depending, of course, on price. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, nfreeman said: If the bolded were true they would've given him more than a 1-year deal that walks him to UFA. There is no reason in the world for any rational team to be invested in Ullmark and not to be interested in an upgrade, depending, of course, on price. If you look at the other contracts given out such as to Reinhart and the other players that were brought on in general they were for short term deals. Ullmark is still in a show-me status for the big long-term deal as with Reinhart. That's not to suggest that they don't like these players but they are not going to be caught up with a Skinner type deal for players that they are not sure are good to very good. The point I was emphasizing with Ullmark is that the organization is comfortable with him as their #1 goalie this year and the near future. But when you are investing in a longer and richer term deal then prudence is the way to go. And on the Ullmark side of the equation he doing well in an interim deal makes him more appealing on the market when it gets to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: If that is the case, then the organization is also being “stubborn”. 😉 It's a fair description to consider it being hard headed about this issue. 😛 Bighorn Rams Head Butting - Bing video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootica Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, French Collection said: Seravalli at TSN reporting that the Blues are talking with other teams about Vince Dunn. He was scratched last game and is in the coach’s doghouse. Straight up for Miller? I know St. Louis has holes at RD, but something tells me they would want more than Miller. That team's cap situation is complicated so I'm not sure if his cap hit would be an issue or not. I'm not a huge Dunn fan, but I do think he would be a decent trade target. Evens out our defensive handedness and could provide some offensive ability in a sheltered role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 My guess would be it would be akin to Miller + our 2nd and maybe a 3rd or 4th in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Friedman reporting Bennett has asked for a trade out of Calgary. Bennett's agent confirms? Bennett looking for center position time, so the report goes. Buffalo, Calgary talked trade a month or so back, I believe the convo was goalie and a forward? Staal, 36 on 1 year deal, Buffalo will need another? Is there a deal to be had here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) @Scottysabres what does he add to our team? I agree we need to think beyond Staal as the 2C, but Cozens is that man long-term. I agree we may need a stop gap for one more year, but Staal could still be that guy. Bennett imho doesn’t fit the bill. This is one of the reasons I had hope we’d go after someone with term like Henrique. Edited January 31, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: @Scottysabres what does he add to our team? I agree we need to think beyond Staal as the 2C, but Cozens is that man long-term. I agree we may need a stop gap for one more year, but Staal could still be that guy. Bennett imho doesn’t fit the bill. This is one of the reasons I had hope we’d go after someone with term like Henrique. Bennett brings something to the table many say this team has lacked for over a decade now. Passion. He's very much known as a heart and soul type player that plays tenaciously. While you may be indifferent to that type of player, many of us aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Scottysabres said: Bennett brings something to the table many say this team has lacked for over a decade now. Passion. He's very much known as a heart and soul type player that plays tenaciously. While you may be indifferent to that type of player, many of us aren't. But is he really that much better then Lazar? Edited January 31, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: But is he really that much better then Lazar. Actually, yes, he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Bennett for Mittlestadt, straight up. The pull-up trade. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Scottysabres said: Bennett brings something to the table many say this team has lacked for over a decade now. Mustache. FTFY 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Bennet for zemgus and our 2nd rounder. Or Bennet and calgary 2nd rounder for Montour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 I wouldn't mind trading for Bennet. He has a good energy and plays well in the playoffs. Can't imagine he would cost too much either. However, he has a habit of taking penalties, usually at the wrong time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Trade Montour and either Mitts or Tage for Bennett and Kylington Bennett works hard, plays hard, and that is something we sorely lack. (Plus if we ever make the damn playoffs again; he's a great playoff player.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: Kylington... a guy on waivers 2 weeks ago... no. It's more or less a F & a D for a F & a D and the money would be roughly even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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