Shootica Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 I'm not a Kessel fan by any stretch, but any advanced stat that is primarily shot driven isn't going to tell the whole story with him. His shot is elite, so he's going to score at a higher rate than the numbers suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 ***** Phil Kessel! He offers little to nothing. His goal scoring was non-existent once he left Malkin's security. He's overrated, overpaid and isn't someone that even gives his all in the offseason. But, who knows with Buffalo any terrible decision is possible. (See: Kim Pegula as president of hockey ops.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, TheCerebral1 said: But, who knows with Buffalo any terrible decision is possible. (See: Kim Pegula as president of hockey ops.) She is not President of Hockey Operations. She is Owner/President. It’s a different title. Many NHL teams have a non hockey person as team President. The Pegulas do enough questionable things to complain that we don’t need to invent grievances where there are none. Edited September 21, 2020 by Curt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted September 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Per Chad D. The Sabres and Blackhawks have had conversations about Brandon Saad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Oooo, interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Saad is a good player but plays LW (and shoots left). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootica Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Saad would be such a good target if he played the right side, but it takes a little out of it for me knowing that we'd have to put him, Skinner, or Olofsson on their off hand. Not the end of the world, but it isn't ideal either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Goaloffson played some RW in Sweden. Having his one timer on the right side would be a benefit at even strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Saad can and has played right wing. More than just a cap dump, but he shouldn't cost much since the market for $6.5 million salary $6 million cap hit 20 goal scorers ain't big. He fits the big body veteran forward Jack and Ralph were talking about to a "T" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Also worth noting -- Saad has 1 year left on his contract. As @dudacek notes, supply and demand are likely to result in him being available for a fairly low price in trade. I'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 As I noted in another thread I think he can be had for a deal similar for the Bjugstad deal. Maybe a conditional 5th if they keep $2 mill in cap and 2.5 in salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, dudacek said: Saad can and has played right wing. More than just a cap dump, but he shouldn't cost much since the market for $6.5 million salary $6 million cap hit 20 goal scorers ain't big. He fits the big body veteran forward Jack and Ralph were talking about to a "T" From a player standpoint he would be a good addition but from a salary and cap standpoint I'm not sure you will be getting enough bang for the buck. However, in order to make this deal or a similar deal to work we wouldn't have to trade away an equal salary away so much as shed a contract that will somewhat offset this relatively high cost player. What is encouraging is that it seems as if the brain trust is trying to reshape the roster by bringing in tougher players i.e. perimeter and finesse players are not wanted. And what is also encouraging is that in this market there are teams that will be forced to put up for sale good players in order to manage their cap and salary structure. There are options to select from. https://www.nhl.com/blackhawks/video/saads-best-of-2019-20/t-277437096/c-5416567 https://www.nhl.com/blackhawks/video/saad-on-offseason-plans/t-277437096/c-5409604 Edited September 21, 2020 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 One note on Saad, the critics say he has never been great in his own end. We heard that also about Jimmy Vesey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootica Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Saad does have a NTC with a 10 team trade list, for what it's worth. Although I could see him as someone who they could convince to come over for a year. He's a Pittsburgh guy and from the sounds of that video still lives there in the off-season, so maybe Krueger/Adams could pull on the 'close to home' strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Would Dadonov be worth a punt for a year. Seems to be a bonefide scorer. Elite has him down as lw or rw but shoot L though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted September 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: One note on Saad, the critics say he has never been great in his own end. We heard that also about Jimmy Vesey. But Saad’s Offensive Production more than makes up for that. The same cannot be said about Vesey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted September 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Skinner-Eichel-Saad Olofsson-Staal-Reinhart Kahun-Cozens-UFA (Fast please) That’s a much better looking Top 9. They could even swap VO and Kahun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Brawndo said: But Saad’s Offensive Production more than makes up for that. The same cannot be said about Vesey My point was that they were wrong about Vesey. He was fine defensively last season. It was his lack of scoring that was the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Skinner-Eichel-Saad Olofsson-Staal-Reinhart Kahun-Cozens-UFA (Fast please) That’s a much better looking Top 9. They could even swap VO and Kahun I'm going to fix this for you..... Skinner-Jack-Sam Saad-Staal-Tage Olofsson-Kahun-Cozens If they pick up Saad's contract, they're going to play Tage and Cozens to balance salary, they ease Cozens in at 3C with Kahun as temporary cover. Tage is ready for the NHL IMO and playing with 2 vets gives him some cover. That's still a major upgrade in our top 9 over last year. I don't think if they can get Saad they'll be able to afford a UFA at RW and you'll have speed to spare on that 3rd line. Filling that 4th line will be interesting with KO and whomever. And I agree with the GAS man, if they can sign Vesey cheap, he's the new LW on that 4th line with Girgs as the 4C if they lose Larsson. Edited September 21, 2020 by jsb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 I’m in on Saad if they get him cheaply. 4th line UFA I would look at if Larsson leaves is Barclay Goodrow, making a deep run with the Lightning. He can play all 3 forward positions, good on the PK as well as winning the majority of his face offs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, jsb said: I'm going to fix this for you..... Skinner-Jack-Sam Saad-Staal-Tage Olofsson-Kahun-Cozens If they pick up Saad's contract, they're going to play Tage and Cozens to balance salary, they ease Cozens in at 3C with Kahun as temporary cover. Tage is ready for the NHL IMO and playing with 2 vets gives him some cover. That's still a major upgrade in our top 9 over last year. I don't think if they can get Saad they'll be able to afford a UFA at RW and you'll have speed to spare on that 3rd line. Filling that 4th line will be interesting with KO and whomever. And I agree with the GAS man, if they can sign Vesey cheap, he's the new LW on that 4th line with Girgs as the 4C if they lose Larsson. I'd rather have a roster with Fast and Copp than Saad and Thompson. Brawndo's Fast and Saad could work, too. Edited September 21, 2020 by Thorny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Thorny said: I'd rather have a roster with Fast and Copp than Saad and Thompson. Brawndo's Fast and Saad could work, too. With Staal here for at least this upcoming season, I would definitely love to get Copp in to lessen the strain on Cozens that much more. Copp, also has been used as a somewhat useful RW option as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Thorny said: I'd rather have a roster with Fast and Copp than Saad and Thompson. Brawndo's Fast and Saad could work, too. It's time you start giving some love to Tage, IMO he's going to arrive this year. Edited September 21, 2020 by jsb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 55 minutes ago, jsb said: It's time you start giving some love to Tage, IMO he's going to arrive this year. To be honest I have warmed to him somewhat. I'm just looking for a defensively strong winger for that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: Skinner-Eichel-Saad Olofsson-Staal-Reinhart Kahun-Cozens-UFA (Fast please) That’s a much better looking Top 9. They could even swap VO and Kahun Yup, or Skinner/VO. We know Saad is comfortable on the right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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