Brawndo Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 John Vogl also confirms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Brawndo said: John Vogl also confirms If we had reason to believe there were better people that were going to be brought in, that would be one thing. But, after the Zoom meeting, this seems like simply letting people go. Even with a net reduction in the size of the hockey department, that wouldn't be depressing g if we had reason to believe top people were coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 I can't say it doesn't feel like they're just trying to cut salary to help the bottom line while hockey is essentially paused. Nothing to really scout, nothing to really manage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: I can't say it doesn't feel like they're just trying to cut salary to help the bottom line while hockey is essentially paused. Nothing to really scout, nothing to really manage. I know people wanted to hear something traditional, but Terry was very clear that the team’s finances were a primary driver in all this. The entire PC was about financials. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, darksabre said: I can't say it doesn't feel like they're just trying to cut salary to help the bottom line while hockey is essentially paused. Nothing to really scout, nothing to really manage. I don't like it as the last thing anyone else needs in a global recession and pandemic is to lose their job. But the scouts really won't have work to do for the foreseeable future. And it does give an opportunity to clean house and build a new scouting department later. Strictly on the bottom line, this makes sense for the next however-many-months. It's just a matter of how lean the franchise gets in the coming months. For example, does it extend to RFAs and we don't re-sign anyone for months, don't make a trade, and just wait it out. Or lose players because other teams negotiate with the RFAs. (And no one is taking Sam for 4 1st round picks.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Buff Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 I would've preferred firing Jbotts because of the performance of the team. But now it appears it was at the very least partly due to him being opposed to these other staff cuts & the firings with the Amerks. So now Jbotts is a martyr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, In The Buff said: I would've preferred firing Jbotts because of the performance of the team. But now it appears it was at the very least partly due to him being opposed to these other staff cuts & the firings with the Amerks. So now Jbotts is a martyr? Who said he was opposed to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 minute ago, In The Buff said: I would've preferred firing Jbotts because of the performance of the team. But now it appears it was at the very least partly due to him being opposed to these other staff cuts & the firings with the Amerks. So now Jbotts is a martyr? What is this based on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Is the entire scouting staff gone too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Buff Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, SDS said: Who said he was opposed to this? 5 minutes ago, nfreeman said: What is this based on? This article here talks about what changed over the past 3 weeks. Goes into the discussions JB had with the Pegs about the restructuring plans & him being opposed to them. Maybe its just WGR messing with me but if u follow the course of events it seems probable his firing was at least due in part to those "philosophical differences" in this restructuring plan. https://www.tsn.ca/talent/buffalo-sabres-decide-to-start-over-once-again-1.1486570 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Aye yi yi. Who's gonna turn the lights off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PASabreFan Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Jeanneret's pillow just got Febrezed and escorted out by one of the Pegula kids in a SECURITY t-shirt. That or I ate one too many edible brownies last hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 So, if teams start cancelling their contracts with video scouting services to save money, and there's no hockey for a season, how long do those companies stay afloat? And how quickly can they spin back up when junior hockey returns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, In The Buff said: This article here talks about what changed over the past 3 weeks. Goes into the discussions JB had with the Pegs about the restructuring plans & him being opposed to them. Maybe its just WGR messing with me but if u follow the course of events it seems probable his firing was at least due in part to those "philosophical differences" in this restructuring plan. https://www.tsn.ca/talent/buffalo-sabres-decide-to-start-over-once-again-1.1486570 If so, then none of this is the general manager's doing. He's just the guy who agreed to take the job and let it happen. Which might explain why they didn't/couldn't do a proper job search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, In The Buff said: This article here talks about what changed over the past 3 weeks. Goes into the discussions JB had with the Pegs about the restructuring plans & him being opposed to them. Maybe its just WGR messing with me but if u follow the course of events it seems probable his firing was at least due in part to those "philosophical differences" in this restructuring plan. https://www.tsn.ca/talent/buffalo-sabres-decide-to-start-over-once-again-1.1486570 That piece passed the smell test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 For feck's sake. The philosophical difference was Botterill's reluctance to oversee a gutting of hockey ops? Sorry - a process of making hockey ops leaner and more efficient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: For feck's sake. The philosophical difference was Botterill's reluctance to oversee a gutting of hockey ops? Sorry - a process of making hockey ops leaner and more efficient? Lol they aren't even firing him for the things he's terrible at 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 How has Devine survived? He was the scouting guru when we scouted poorly, and he is now the player development guy when we have developed guys poorly. I'm intrigued what the wino has on the Pegulas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Taro T said: If we had reason to believe there were better people that were going to be brought in, that would be one thing. But, after the Zoom meeting, this seems like simply letting people go. Even with a net reduction in the size of the hockey department, that wouldn't be depressing g if we had reason to believe top people were coming in. I think it's the new sports economics kicking in. The team--well, all teams--don't know where the money is going to come from next 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, SDS said: Who said he was opposed to this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Buff Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, SDS said: I know people wanted to hear something traditional, but Terry was very clear that the team’s finances were a primary driver in all this. The entire PC was about financials. I guess it's not as easy to "just dig another well" as it used to be. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Ole Sugar Packets is back to haunt us. Next thing we are gonna hear is Terry whining about the gulls shitting on his yacht. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getpucksdeep Posted June 16, 2020 Report Share Posted June 16, 2020 Are Duff, Ray, and Biron safe? Man this is a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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