PerreaultForever Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Eleven said: At the NHL level, I'm not sure "first stop is on the goalie, etc." works. He's the worst I've seen in a long time with rebounds. I'm definitely not going to argue that he is good at rebounds. He isn't, agreed, big time. I'm not sure he's all that much worse than most back up goalies though. Cause that's what he is, a back up, not a starter. That's what he's always been and to think he'd be a good starter here was silly if that's what JBot actually thought. Remember too that Lehner was heavily critiqued here in Buffalo for letting rebounds go and then he went to NYI, a team that was good with clearing rebounds for their goalies, and he put up great numbers. Now yes, there are additional getting his head on straight issues in that case, but the rebound issue here was in part on the D same as it is now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 29, 2020 Report Share Posted February 29, 2020 6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I'm definitely not going to argue that he is good at rebounds. He isn't, agreed, big time. I'm not sure he's all that much worse than most back up goalies though. Cause that's what he is, a back up, not a starter. That's what he's always been and to think he'd be a good starter here was silly if that's what JBot actually thought. Remember too that Lehner was heavily critiqued here in Buffalo for letting rebounds go and then he went to NYI, a team that was good with clearing rebounds for their goalies, and he put up great numbers. Now yes, there are additional getting his head on straight issues in that case, but the rebound issue here was in part on the D same as it is now. Did you notice last night that he wasn't giving up the juicy rebounds? He's gotten better. Vegas didn't have to do a lot for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 hours ago, Eleven said: Did you notice last night that he wasn't giving up the juicy rebounds? He's gotten better. Vegas didn't have to do a lot for him. winning builds confidence. sometimes for goalies, when you start to feel the D has things covered (his time in NY) you regain confidence and start working on your weaknesses and such, you just get better. Where he was (here) he had to do too much and over thought and it all falls apart quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: winning builds confidence. sometimes for goalies, when you start to feel the D has things covered (his time in NY) you regain confidence and start working on your weaknesses and such, you just get better. Where he was (here) he had to do too much and over thought and it all falls apart quickly. Or he's got his alcoholism under control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Or he's got his alcoholism under control. earlier I said other mental health issues as well so that is part of it. Combination of all these things and feedback reinforcing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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