Ogelthorpe Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, LGR4GM said: I'll be shocked if Johansson is given a game. Yeah, why would your AHL all star goalie get a chance. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 hours ago, darksabre said: A little more than I expected, but not by much. Dislocated kneecap or something. Likely a bad sprain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Interesting to note that Hasek didn't become "HASEK" until he was 28 years old. While Hutton is Hutton, it doesn't mean that Ullmark, Johanssen or UPL can't be the star of the future. Goalies do take more time to learn the game. I'd like to see what Johansson does under the bright lights. He could light it up and be the future or be a good trade asset. Play him, what do we really have to lose this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman0519 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Mustache of God said: This kills the playoffs. that was long gone before this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: and for those anti tankers - if you ranked the core of the team right now it would probably be Eichel, Dahlin, Reinhart as the top 3....all picked in the top 2 of their respective drafts.... Lets increase the odds of landing the 2 elite talents in this years draft as high as possible. And what's been the results from having those top 3? Looking to add someone to make it a top 4? I guess it worked so well for Edmonton........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Tondas said: Interesting to note that Hasek didn't become "HASEK" until he was 28 years old. While Hutton is Hutton, it doesn't mean that Ullmark, Johanssen or UPL can't be the star of the future. Goalies do take more time to learn the game. I'd like to see what Johansson does under the bright lights. He could light it up and be the future or be a good trade asset. Play him, what do we really have to lose this year? To be fair (and I'm a huge Hasek fan), but he is more of the outlier/fluke then a possibility. I hate making this comparison as its very insulting, but he is the Tom Brady of the NHL, he came in the league as a nobody and left as a GOAT. Maybe I'll mark gets better and can be a starter, and maybe Johanson surprises and shows he can be a starter too. UPL has already shown at pretty much every level he has played at that he will be a starter, and possibly a very good one. I don't expect him to be Hasek, but I think it may be reasonable for him to be atleast at the Miller level for the Sabres..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: To be fair (and I'm a huge Hasek fan), but he is more of the outlier/fluke then a possibility. I hate making this comparison as its very insulting, but he is the Tom Brady of the NHL, he came in the league as a nobody and left as a GOAT. Maybe I'll mark gets better and can be a starter, and maybe Johanson surprises and shows he can be a starter too. UPL has already shown at pretty much every level he has played at that he will be a starter, and possibly a very good one. I don't expect him to be Hasek, but I think it may be reasonable for him to be atleast at the Miller level for the Sabres..... I can't argue with your post. My theme is, "You never know, even at up to age 27 for goalies." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Binnington isn't quite that age yet but when he was playing in Providence nobody had him pegged as a cup winning star goalie. Goalies are weird, and lots of them definitely mature late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Binnington isn't quite that age yet but when he was playing in Providence nobody had him pegged as a cup winning star goalie. Goalies are weird, and lots of them definitely mature late. Lets plan the parade ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: i hope they play Hutton... if you are going to Tank, lets do it right! Annually being one of the worst teams in the league is the one thing this franchise does right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Buffalo News is reporting that Hutton will be the starter going forward. This is stupid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, Eleven said: Buffalo News is reporting that Hutton will be the starter going forward. This is stupid. I don't like seeing you beaten down. I really don't. Lindy was awesome, he really was. I hope this lifts you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 So is he officially 2J3O3S3N? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 9 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: To be fair (and I'm a huge Hasek fan), but he is more of the outlier/fluke then a possibility. I hate making this comparison as its very insulting, but he is the Tom Brady of the NHL, he came in the league as a nobody and left as a GOAT. Maybe I'll mark gets better and can be a starter, and maybe Johanson surprises and shows he can be a starter too. UPL has already shown at pretty much every level he has played at that he will be a starter, and possibly a very good one. I don't expect him to be Hasek, but I think it may be reasonable for him to be atleast at the Miller level for the Sabres..... We're also talking about something that happened 25 years ago (my god, has it been that long?). The development path of every single position across the board has changed so much in that time. I haven't dug into it too much lately, but I'd imagine this idea that goalies are late bloomers has evolved since then. And as you said, Hasek was a complete aberration, a freak of nature. I know the suggestion was not that any of these guys could still be the next Dom, but some names just exist on a different plane and are best left out of anything that could be even remotely perceived as a comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 Is it coincidental that Dom emerged as the league entered a dead puck era? Would he have the same numbers today? Also, his style was so shocking and heretofore unseen, he had that tremendous advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Tondas said: Interesting to note that Hasek didn't become "HASEK" until he was 28 years old. While Hutton is Hutton, it doesn't mean that Ullmark, Johanssen or UPL can't be the star of the future. Goalies do take more time to learn the game. I'd like to see what Johansson does under the bright lights. He could light it up and be the future or be a good trade asset. Play him, what do we really have to lose this year? 9 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: To be fair (and I'm a huge Hasek fan), but he is more of the outlier/fluke then a possibility. I hate making this comparison as its very insulting, but he is the Tom Brady of the NHL, he came in the league as a nobody and left as a GOAT. Maybe I'll mark gets better and can be a starter, and maybe Johanson surprises and shows he can be a starter too. UPL has already shown at pretty much every level he has played at that he will be a starter, and possibly a very good one. I don't expect him to be Hasek, but I think it may be reasonable for him to be atleast at the Miller level for the Sabres..... Um, Hasek was far and away the best goalie in the 3rd best league in the world for over 1/2 a decade before the Iron Curtain fell and he got a chance to play in NA. Hasek was ALWAYS Hasek. He always had that completely unconventional style that ALWAYS got the job done and also always scared the bejesus out of his NA coaches because it always seemed when he was a "nobody" that the saves had to have been due to luck, not skill. Who knows, if Keenan wasn't a bonehead enamored with starting (though often not finishing) Ol' Bats in His Belfour, Chicago could've possibly beaten Pittsburgh. They definitely would've given them a tougher series. Hasek was very effective before Fuhr was brought in, but Muckler was too stupid to trust the results and gave up a ton to land Fuhr (including the inferior goalie that he kept ahead of Hasek on the depth chart because he played poorly but conventionally whereas Dom was unconventional but incredible - his literally being incredible held him back, coaches didn't believe the results they were watching). And, had Fuhr's knee injury that put Hasek between the pipes when Brad May got his claim to fame been a bit more severe to actually have knocked him out of the next round, it could very well have been Buffalo beating LA that year. The only reason Hasek got his chance to start regularly and win the job was because Fuhr was injured yet again. It wasn't because he came out of nowhere. It was because a NA coach was FINALLY put in a position where he had no other option and was forced to accept that what he was seeing was actually what was happening. -------- Yes, goalies take longer to develop, but it is the rare one like Roloson who completely changes his game in mid-20's or Thomas (who won a National Championship at Vermont and also was unconventional in style) who bloom late into excellent goalies. Ullmark may improve a bit more, but likely what we see is what we get. (Essentially / effectively Biron. Which isn't a bad thing. It's a good thing, but sadly not a great thing.) Edited January 30, 2020 by Taro T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Eleven said: Buffalo News is reporting that Hutton will be the starter going forward. This is stupid. or brilliant... Tank Nation is back!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 14 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: And what's been the results from having those top 3? Looking to add someone to make it a top 4? I guess it worked so well for Edmonton........ THE PROBLEM is not DAHLIN, EICHEL OR REINHART. the problem is building around those 3. You honestly believe adding another player like them is going to hurt their chances to improve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 I have no idea why they would keep playing Hutton knowing he isn't any good. Play Johansson and at least see what you have in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: THE PROBLEM is not DAHLIN, EICHEL OR REINHART. the problem is building around those 3. Been "building" around two of those for a while now. Perhaps you need a stronger foundation to build on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Been "building" around two of those for a while now. Perhaps you need a stronger foundation to build on? Nope. Our problem is secondary scoring. Period. Edited January 30, 2020 by SwampD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Been "building" around two of those for a while now. Perhaps you need a stronger foundation to build on? I agree. So go get another top 5 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 So Linus got hurt 3.5 weeks ago -- has anyone heard an update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 He’s Skating on his own as of last Thursday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) FYI: Hutton is 6-2-0 in his 8 February starts. In those 6 wins he has allowed only 12 ga with a .936 save % Those two losses were clunkers of biblical proportion but if he plays at a 6-2-0 pace for the rest of the season the Sabres will make the playoffs. Big if, but at least it's nice to know it is possible. Edited February 23, 2020 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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