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He has a hat trick and an assist versus Moose Jaw Tonight 

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Please God let this young man be one of the many answers we need. 

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I watched all of the world juniors and what I really liked about this kid (and I've read similar things about him) was his attitude and what seemed like genuine enjoyment. He goes right in front, bumps, grinds, takes a hit, gives it back, and all the while smiles and just plain loves it. Feeds off of the contact even. If this carries through to the pro level he is truly what we need desperately, and if he brings it, maybe it'll catch on.

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He was giving a 10 day rest after the WJC. Cozens currently has 24g, 29a, for 53 points in 33 games. That is a 1.61ppg pace for the season. Pretty good. 

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16 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

He was giving a 10 day rest after the WJC. Cozens currently has 24g, 29a, for 53 points in 33 games. That is a 1.61ppg pace for the season. Pretty good. 

Who's got the factors for how that pace would translate to the NHL?

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I think the conversion is like .31 for the WHL... so roughly 40points (+/-3.5) if he played an 82 game season.

 

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Cozens scoring rate in the last two years: 137 pts in 101 games, 1.36 ppg.

Reinhart scoring rate in his last two WHL years: 170 pts in 107 games, 1.59 ppg.

Dylan Cozens scoring rate should continue to climb this season and approach Sam’s.

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Interesting too is that in Reinhart's 3rd WHL year (his draft season) he had 1.75ppg and in Cozens 3rd WHL year (his draft +1 season) he has 1.61

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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Interesting too is that in Reinhart's 3rd WHL year (his draft season) he had 1.75ppg and in Cozens 3rd WHL year (his draft +1 season) he has 1.61

Reinhart was 19 for most of his draft season, November birthday.

Cozens turns 19 more than halfway through his draft +1 season.

Different playing styles but they do have similar numbers.

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5 minutes ago, French Collection said:

Reinhart was 19 for most of his draft season, November birthday.

Cozens turns 19 more than halfway through his draft +1 season.

Different playing styles but they do have similar numbers.

They are only 3 months apart in age so idk how much it is impacting things. 

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49 minutes ago, French Collection said:

Reinhart was 19 for most of his draft season, November birthday.

Cozens turns 19 more than halfway through his draft +1 season.

Different playing styles but they do have similar numbers.

No, Reinhart was 18 for most of his draft season.  19 for most of his draft+1 season.  I think you are off by a calendar year.

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2 hours ago, Curt said:

No, Reinhart was 18 for most of his draft season.  19 for most of his draft+1 season.  I think you are off by a calendar year.

Yes, that is correct. 

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Thanks for the correction.

Sam was a bit older than his draft peers due to the late birthday. The majority of the picks in his draft year were 1996 kids, that is where I got mixed up.

I was looking at Kirby Dach’s stats, 7G 7A this season with the Blackhawks. He was comparable to Cozens in junior. Many people would be complaining if the Sabres had kept Cozens and he was producing those numbers.

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4 hours ago, Curt said:

No, Reinhart was 18 for most of his draft season.  19 for most of his draft+1 season.  I think you are off by a calendar year.

Yes, Cozens was 17 for the majority of his draft season.

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23 minutes ago, French Collection said:

What I’m trying to say is that Reinhart was drafted a year later than a lot of his peers. He was born in 1995 but was drafted in 2014 due to his late birthday (Nov.). He was 19 in November 2014, one month after the season started. His draft year, 14-15 was mainly as a 19 year old.

But it’s not true.  2014-15 wasn’t his draft year.  His draft year was 2013-14.  He turned 18 early in the season of his draft year, not 19.

Reinhart does have an early-ish birthday for his draft year, but nothing out of the ordinary.  The cutoff date is September 15th.

Sam was born November 6, 1995.  He turned 18 on Nov 6, 2013.  He was drafted in June of 2014.  He was 18 when he was drafted.  He was 18 when he made his NHL debut in October 2014.  He turned 19 on November 6, 2014.

No players turn 19 during their draft season.  They are all 18, or 17 when drafted.  Assuming they are picked the first year they are eligible.

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3 minutes ago, Curt said:

But it’s not true.  2014-15 wasn’t his draft year.  His draft year was 2013-14.  He turned 18 early in the season of his draft year, not 19.

Reinhart does have an early-ish birthday for his draft year, but nothing out of the ordinary.  The cutoff date is September 15th.

Sam was born November 6, 1995.  He turned 18 on Nov 6, 2013.  He was drafted in June of 2014.  He was 18 when he was drafted.  He was 18 when he made his NHL debut in October 2014.  He turned 19 on November 6, 2014.

No players turn 19 during their draft season.  They are all 18, or 17 when drafted.  Assuming they are picked the first year they are eligible.

I’m just saying that most of the guys in Sam’s draft year were born in 1996. He was born in late 1995 so his eligibility was 2014 draft.

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16 minutes ago, French Collection said:

I’m just saying that most of the guys in Sam’s draft year were born in 1996. He was born in late 1995 so his eligibility was 2014 draft.

Eichel, McCabe, Risto were all older when drafted than Reinhart.  Draisaitl, the guy picked just after Reinhart, is older.

Reinhart was not uncommonly old when drafted.  He was almost 2 months from the cut off date.

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So 57 pts in 34 GP... if he keeps this pace up could get to 2.0 per pts game

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Keep in mind the last 2 games have been against bad whl teams. He should score there. 

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I'm disappointed that Lethbridge doesn't have a road game at Seattle or Everett this season. (I don't like this whole JBOT-avoids-the-WHL/CHL-in-general as it clamps on my style of going to games to give Sabres prospects the macrobinocular test.)

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I respectfully request that we do not pile everything about one player into a single thread. His contract, his development, injury status, charity work, whatever... are all distinct topics that deserve their own space. 

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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Keep in mind the last 2 games have been against bad whl teams. He should score there. 

straight outta compton page GIF

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Brawndo is making me feel all warm and fuzzy on a cold winters night with this talk.

 

It's that or it's late and I've enjoyed a nice jigger of scotch.

 

 

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