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SwampD Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Hey, before this season it was at least a defensible position! He's been bad this year though. I was just joking. I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, inkman said: To what end. The owners are measured on success. Which includes sales. To date, those haven't suffered. Until they do, the trial will be postponed. I can promise you sales have suffered as the number of empty seats has increased. Those missing fannies aren't buying food, drink, merch etc. 55 minutes ago, Curt said: “But Pegula is the owner. Who are we to question his decision making? What do we know about owning a team?” That’s basically the same logic that you are applying to the on ice performance. From my point of view. I didn't make up any bogus stats about the owner. Think about what Expected Goals is. Somebody charts where the shots are coming from and determines there was x% chance of that shot going in from that precise location on the ice. Today, at least, those shots added up to the result that the Sabres were "supposed" to score .56 goals at 5 on 5. They scored two. So they played a "*****" game and the win is therefore not sustainable. The goals, I suppose, were "lucky." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: I didn't make up any bogus stats about the owner. Think about what Expected Goals is. Somebody charts where the shots are coming from and determines there was x% chance of that shot going in from that precise location on the ice. Today, at least, those shots added up to the result that the Sabres were "supposed" to score .56 goals at 5 on 5. They scored two. So they played a "*****" game and the win is therefore not sustainable. The goals, I suppose, were "lucky." 1) I know what expected goals are. 2) My comment was not about expected goals. It was about the view point you expressed. “They won, so let’s leave any discussion or criticism about how they played to the professionals.” If you don’t agree, it’s fine, but people are here to talk about stuff. Edited January 13, 2020 by Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tondas said: I never met him but he lived right at the Colvin Blvd exit at the 190 across from the whale car wash. Every time I took that exit, I thought of Frank. Yes he did. I lived in a neighborhood off of that Colvin Exit (From The 290 aka The Youngman”), towards Ken East. Edited January 13, 2020 by Pimlach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Zamboni said: Sure. He’s on a fair contract. He’d be a nice #2 center. It could take a deal like this to get a second line center. We give up a lot but we fill a critical hole. Maybe they toss in a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Curt said: 1) I know what expected goals are. 2) My comment was not about expected goals. It was about the view point you expressed. “They won, so let’s leave any discussion or criticism about how they played to the professionals.” If you don’t agree, it’s fine, but people are here to talk about stuff. No. I meant let's leave the analytics to the pros. I'd also leave them out of the GDT while the game is on. IMO there's very little appetite for it. As for tonight... we have so little. Can't we have something nice? I know. I should blame Erod and Bogo for scoring when they shouldn't have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: No. I meant let's leave the analytics to the pros. I'd also leave them out of the GDT while the game is on. IMO there's very little appetite for it. As for tonight... we have so little. Can't we have something nice? I know. I should blame Erod and Bogo for scoring when they shouldn't have. That's just funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Ruining their draft positioning i assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: Ruining their draft positioning i assume? Said no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, inkman said: Said no one. Are we not at the point of Cheering on losses for the better pick? I thought thats what we are all supposed to do when the team isn't a cup contender? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabremike Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 hours ago, inkman said: To what end. The owners are measured on success. Which includes sales. To date, those haven't suffered. Until they do, the trial will be postponed. Unless we are playing a marquee team there are thousands of empty seats at every game. When Pegula took over there was literally a waiting list for season tickets and through sheer stupidity and incompetence those days are long gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 hours ago, sabremike said: Unless we are playing a marquee team there are thousands of empty seats at every game. When Pegula took over there was literally a waiting list for season tickets and through sheer stupidity and incompetence those days are long gone. Empty seats, yes but we're they paid for? I understand concessions and the like will be lower with less Fannie's in the seats but how much is that affecting the bottom line? I legit don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Well, the Sabres are disappointing, but the Red Wings are awful. Eeeeeeeessshhhh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Curt said: 1) I know what expected goals are. 2) My comment was not about expected goals. It was about the view point you expressed. “They won, so let’s leave any discussion or criticism about how they played to the professionals.” If you don’t agree, it’s fine, but people are here to talk about stuff. Exactly my thought as well. 10 hours ago, PASabreFan said: No. I meant let's leave the analytics to the pros. I'd also leave them out of the GDT while the game is on. IMO there's very little appetite for it. As for tonight... we have so little. Can't we have something nice? I know. I should blame Erod and Bogo for scoring when they shouldn't have. We should just leave talking about the team to the pros. Sabrespace should just be threads about how nice Reinharts hair is and how funny skinner is. What? What does this even mean? This is exactly what happened in 2018 during the streak. Some of us were like... oh man idk this seems questionable and then got told to shut up. That is essential what you are doing. You don't like what was said so you want us to shut up. Edited January 13, 2020 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Exactly my thought as well. We should just leave talking about the team to the pros. Sabrespace should just be threads about how nice Reinharts hair is and how funny skinner is. But Sam's smile isn't genuine. I worry he's not really happy when he should have every reason to be so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: But Sam's smile isn't genuine. I worry he's not really happy when he should have every reason to be so. Leave his happiness to the pros. You don't know. Why can't we have something nice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, LGR4GM said: Leave his happiness to the pros. You don't know. Why can't we have something nice? Sam's nice, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, PASabreFan said: Sam's nice, for sure. Sam is now 24! That kind of shocked me to see. He will always be that 19 year old kid to me, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 After the Shero firing, I found myself thinking that a game against New Jersey right now would do a lot right now for my game viewing enjoyment. I guess Detroit doesn't hurt either (even with the poor 2nd period). 1 minute ago, bob_sauve28 said: Sam is now 24! That kind of shocked me to see. He will always be that 19 year old kid to me, lol The older you get, he stays the same age? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 8 hours ago, sabremike said: Unless we are playing a marquee team there are thousands of empty seats at every game. When Pegula took over there was literally a waiting list for season tickets and through sheer stupidity and incompetence those days are long gone. Partially false ... Yes the waiting list was longer and people hung onto their seats more. But ... I’m a STH and I know for a fact that the waiting list is around 2,000 deep as of 1/12/2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Partially false ... Yes the waiting list was longer and people hung onto their seats more. But ... I’m a STH and I know for a fact that the waiting list is around 2,000 deep as of 1/12/2020. What are they waiting for? Aren't season tickets available? Edited January 13, 2020 by PASabreFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 At least we beat the awful teams that we should. Huge upgrade from last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: What are they waiting for? Aren't season tickets available? Every summer, they “get thru” most of the list (offering tickets to those on the list). The issue is timing and or preference. They may call most of those on the list, but maybe at that time a good chunk of fans can’t afford it so they ask to stay on the list and ask them next season. Or the location of the seats isn’t what they prefer, so again, ask to remain on the list in case better preferred seats become available. I bet a majority of that list falls under those two categories. The rest of that list buy the seats that are available to them. And believe it or not, people are still calling to get on the list so the list has stayed around 2,000 for the past 3-4 years. Before that the list was around 3,000 but more fans hung onto their seats longer. Not as much turn around as there is currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted January 13, 2020 Report Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: At least we beat the awful teams that we should. Huge upgrade from last year. And we are very competitive against middle of the standing's teams , and we have upset good teams in games where even stats guys will point out stats that say we where better of the teams that night and it wasn't just a fluke win. They have turtled yet for the season unlike last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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