dudacek Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, Nitro60 said: Disagree. They were not at all. 2 minutes ago, tom webster said: And that’s the crap that JBOT and RK keep telling themselves. Last year he didn’t make a move because he believed the team wasn’t good enough. This year he keeps talking about how much he likes this group. 2 minutes ago, SwampD said: I disagree with this. 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: Ok. Respect all of your takes. Im not an analytics guy, but I’m pretty sure most of them will support my take, just like the shot clock does. They needed to be better, but 3 out of 5 nights they win this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, dudacek said: Respect all of your takes. Im not an analytics guy, but I’m pretty sure most of them will support my take, just like the shot clock does. They needed to be better, but 3 out of 5 nights they win this game. I don't necessarily disagree even. It's just not very relevant to me, when it wasn't by a significant margin regardless, and because it's Ottawa. Expectation should be a win full stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 How many Sam backhand passes to the other team that wind up a scoring chances till Sam sits? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 They showed some hustle in the third, but the number of turnovers made and puck battles lost by the ERod/Sheary duo is truly frightening. Scandella had a good game, and Dahlin looked dangerous in the 3rd, as good as he’s looked at year. Reinhart looked sluggish and frustrated. He showed more temper the past two games than the rest of the season combined. Please, JBot, give us a real top six forward for Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro60 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, dudacek said: Respect all of your takes. Im not an analytics guy, but I’m pretty sure most of them will support my take, just like the shot clock does. They needed to be better, but 3 out of 5 nights they win this game. My beef is they spent a lot of time in the Sens end but kept to the perimeter. Easy shots to stop. Sens out played them when it counted in the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Time for RFK to get rid of the espresso machine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Dropping like a stone in the standings......it's gonna get bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro60 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, CallawaySabres said: Dropping like a stone in the standings......it's gonna get bad Critical stretch in the schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: They showed some hustle in the third, but the number of turnovers made and puck battles lost by the ERod/Sheary duo is truly frightening. Scandella had a good game, and Dahlin looked dangerous in the 3rd, as good as he’s looked at year. Reinhart looked sluggish and frustrated. He showed more temper the past two games than the rest of the season combined. Please, JBot, give us a real top six forward for Christmas. Trade freeze in affect, Botts doesn't have to worry haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverPowerYou Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 I have not been to a game since March of 2016. I usually go to about 3 a year but I just don’t have it in me anymore. What a shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 I'm just going to straight out say it...……………..I've seen more than enough, Jason Botterill's plan is a complete failure. Win, Lose, it wouldn't have mattered tonight. There are just an awful lot of problems to address with this roster, some self inflicted, some lack of action and some pre existing. But it is painfully obvious this organization will continue to waffle in to obscurity until the roster is properly addressed. 2.5 years is ample time to begin to see results, imho. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, dudacek said: Sabres were the better team tonight. I don’t think so. No one on Buffalo played as well as Anderson, Pagaut, Tkchuck, or Chabot did for the Sens. Linus played well. Zemgus and ERod hustled. Eichel tried hard but came up short. Our forwards would not get in front of the net so Anderson saw everything and gave us no second chances. When we got him moving and had numbers around the net he was fantastic. Guys like Reinhart, Skinner and Johansson are not pulling their weight. Veterans like McCabe and Bogo made big mistakes to cause goals. Kruger tries to be confident and upbeat but the jury is still out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, woods-racer said: How many Sam backhand passes to the other team that wind up a scoring chances till Sam sits? Sam needs to be better, but this has got to stop. He has 10 points in 11 December games and is a plus player. Marcus Johansson has 5 points and is -4. Skinner has 4 points and -6. Vesey 4 points, Sheary 3, Rodrigues 1. A “bad” Sam Reinhart is still easily one of our best forwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, dudacek said: Respect all of your takes. Im not an analytics guy, but I’m pretty sure most of them will support my take, just like the shot clock does. They needed to be better, but 3 out of 5 nights they win this game. I knew analytics was going to make the scene here, because I knew they had a ton of shot attempts. my eye said that maybe 3 looked dangerous. Everything to the outside. Everything telegraphed. It was bad. They continue to be too small in front of the net. Edited December 24, 2019 by SwampD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, dudacek said: Respect all of your takes. Im not an analytics guy, but I’m pretty sure most of them will support my take, just like the shot clock does. They needed to be better, but 3 out of 5 nights they win this game. Yeah, I didn’t mean it as a shot at you but I’m way past accepting anything but wins and I can’t believe this GM still has a job. He has constructed a terrible team and after three years their impact forwards are all Tim Murray guys except Skinner. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, tom webster said: Yeah, I didn’t mean it as a shot at you but I’m way past accepting anything but wins and I can’t believe this GM still has a job. He has constructed a terrible team and after three years their impact forwards are all Tim Murray guys except Skinner. Yes. And what do we have for Kane and ROR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, SwampD said: I knew analytics was going to make the scene here, because I knew they had a ton of shot attempts. my eye said that maybe 3 looked dangerous. Everything to the outside. Everything telegraphed. It was bad. They continue to be too small in front of the net. The analytics indeed tell us that the Sabres avoid non-point/outside shots like the plague compared to other teams, for the millionth season in a row 13 minutes ago, dudacek said: Sam needs to be better, but this has got to stop. He has 10 points in 11 December games and is a plus player. Marcus Johansson has 5 points and is -4. Skinner has 4 points and -6. Vesey 4 points, Sheary 3, Rodrigues 1. A “bad” Sam Reinhart is still easily one of our best forwards. Sam has ranged from quiet to great since we left for the western Canada road trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 It's time to start retooling with a new GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, dudacek said: Sam needs to be better, but this has got to stop. He has 10 points in 11 December games and is a plus player. Marcus Johansson has 5 points and is -4. Skinner has 4 points and -6. Vesey 4 points, Sheary 3, Rodrigues 1. A “bad” Sam Reinhart is still easily one of our best forwards. Sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 I do want to say that I really like watching Olofsson play. He looks great. I had my doubts about him surviving in the NHL, but his board work has come so much farther than I thought it was going to come this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektorado Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, SwampD said: I do want to say that I really like watching Olofsson play. He looks great. I had my doubts about him surviving in the NHL, but his board work has come so much farther than I thought it was going to come this year. I just wanted to ask about Olofsson. I know about football contracts but am a babe in the woods about hockey contracts. What type of contract is Olofsson looking at signing next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, SwampD said: I do want to say that I really like watching Olofsson play. He looks great. I had my doubts about him surviving in the NHL, but his board work has come so much farther than I thought it was going to come this year. I think he’s my second favorite player this year, and one of the few reasons we have to not give up all hope for the near-term future. 5 minutes ago, Cheektorado said: I just wanted to ask about Olofsson. I know about football contracts but am a babe in the woods about hockey contracts. What type of contract is Olofsson looking at signing next year? RFA. Both him and Reinhart after this season. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out. It’s Olofsson’s first year but he actually seems like the better player so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Tonight's a good night to call out Reinhart. He's a floater who routinely plays way below his potential. He cannot drive play and he lives and dies with the success of Jack. He should be moved, perhaps with other assets, for a group of assets in return. And can someone tell me why BOGO is playing on this team? He's f-ing terrible and doesn't want to be here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, SwampD said: I knew analytics was going to make the scene here, because I knew they had a ton of shot attempts. my eye said that maybe 3 looked dangerous. Everything to the outside. Everything telegraphed. It was bad. They continue to be too small in front of the net. They had a ton of scoring chances. All scoring chances are dangerous by definition. It's what they did with their chances that was the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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