LGR4GM Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Ik we're biased but who is the better of these 2. I've seen some leaf fans recently unimpressed with Eichel this season. Edited December 14, 2019 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 The argument for matthews is that he scores more goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Poll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) It’s Eichel and it’s not even close. The only thing Matthews does better then Eichel is score goals. Now that isn’t even true anymore. Edited December 14, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Is this a real question? Eichel by a very good margin. His overall game is much better and as @GASabresIUFAN pointed out the only thing that Matthews did better he doesn't any more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 I think this is a poor question to ask any Sabres or Leafs fan. Ask the other 29 markets fan bases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) Eichel is a better player, Matthews a better pure goal scorer although Eichel is now 2nd in the NHL to Pastarnak in goals. That goal he scored today was an elite play to be in close and quickly flip the puck up into corner of the net with a defensive player and goalie there. Edited December 15, 2019 by matter2003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 The last 2-3 years I would have said Matthews, this year Jack's lightbulb just went off or he just decided he's sick of losing and he's taken this team on his back and he is playing at a different level than before. Right now his all around game and scoring acumen to boot puts Jack as the man in this poll. In fact there's most likely not many on one hand you'd give the vote to over him right now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Forecheck Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Eichel is a better player, Matthews a better pure goal scorer although Eichel is now 2nd in the NHL to Pastarnak in goals. That goal he scored today was an elite play to be in close and quickly flip the puck up into corner of the net with a defensive player and goalie there. 10 minutes ago, jsb said: The last 2-3 years I would have said Matthews, this year Jack's lightbulb just went off or he just decided he's sick of losing and he's taken this team on his back and he is playing at a different level than before. Right now his all around game and scoring acumen to boot puts Jack as the man in this poll. In fact there's most likely not many on one hand you'd give the vote to over him right now. I'm not biased, agree with both these posts, JE is clearly the bigger impact guy at this juncture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) Might just be me, but over the years, I have generally seen this ... I won't notice Matthews for most of the game, then he'll suddenly have the puck and put it in the net in an exciting/impressive way. Sometimes twice. I will notice Jack all game, for good and bad, part of which is usually him scoring and setting up goals. This year, Jack's good have become far more frequent than his bad, as has his scoring. Edited December 15, 2019 by carpandean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 1. Eichel has the ability to drag teammates with him. No way Sam and VO have the stats they do without him. 2. He also commands respect from opposition defense. We all see how they give him room most of the time so as not to get turned inside out. 3. He is deceptively strong. Watch him when he gets pinned against the boards or when dmen lean on him. 4. He is starting to lead off the ice. Best (only one I can think of) example was when Dahlin had to sit and Jack gave him the pep talk. 5. He is becoming more and more defensively aware. Backchecking and providing competent coverage are becoming a natural part of his game. Matthews will be remembered like Ovi, a one trick pony. Eichel, like Crosby in that he does more for the team than himself. Edited December 15, 2019 by SABRES 0311 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 The better question is how long until Eichel overtakes MacKinnon? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Being in Toronto certainly helps Mathews gain recognition and helps with his self promotion. The league, media and fans are slowly coming to the realization we all have. Jack is a star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: The better question is how long until Eichel overtakes MacKinnon? Let me ask you. With the game on the line whose stick would you rather the puck be on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) The results of the poll seem to indicate a bias on the part of Sabres fans. But I know better. Edited December 15, 2019 by woods-racer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Jack is blossoming into super star, elite, level He is in the class of the top 4 with McDavid, McKinnon, and Mathews. He is past Mathews as an overall player and he does more with less. He is on a trajectory to #2, which is where McKinnon is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What a funny thread. ? ? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel. That’s the list. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 I’m just waiting to hear from @pi2000 Right now I think it’s jack and not even close. Then when you factor in jack has what $2 mil less long term cap hit (Pi was right about AM holding out for the absolute max cash he could) it becomes even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Two way game needs to be there to be on that list IMHO. Jacks is this year Matthews never has been. That's not Sabres bias but facts. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) The command and respect when the puck is on this man’s stick is unrivaled. Matthews has a lethal shot but I have never seen him drive play like Eichel. I completely agree with Thorny’s top 3 and I suspect that is how this year will wrap up. Jack could even be in the #2 spot. Edited December 15, 2019 by Beer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Thorny said: McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel. That’s the list. Crosby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Matthews loves money. Eichel loves hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Matthews loves money. Eichel loves hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Forecheck Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Thorny said: McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel. That’s the list. That's how I'd rank 'em too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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