Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 What a joke the NHL is. This was going to be a disaster and now it is. Just cancel the whole damn thing already. Nobody cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Just now, New Scotland (NS) said: What a joke the NHL is. This was going to be a disaster and now it is. Just cancel the whole damn thing already. Nobody cares. Speak for yourself. I'm counting every day until sports come back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: What a joke the NHL is. This was going to be a disaster and now it is. Just cancel the whole damn thing already. Nobody cares. The NHL? You do realize that every sports league is doing the same exact thing right now. Hell, the NBA is going to throw everybody into one area. That area just happens to be in the previously mentioned Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 minute ago, shrader said: The NHL? You do realize that every sports league is doing the same exact thing right now. Hell, the NBA is going to throw everybody into one area. That area just happens to be in the previously mentioned Florida. Yes, I do. They are all a joke, but my response was directly about the NHL joke of a league situation. The NBA is even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 I did not know about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Just now, New Scotland (NS) said: Yes, I do. They are all a joke, but my response was directly about the NHL joke of a league situation. The NBA is even worse. And beyond sports, a good portion of the country is seeing right now just how tricky reopening can be. Just about everyone is operating with blindfolds on right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 Just now, shrader said: And beyond sports, a good portion of the country is seeing right now just how tricky reopening can be. Just about everyone is operating with blindfolds on right now. Tricky? What were seeing is the result of all the places that were in such a hurry to reopen reaping the outcome. Likely another spike in a few weeks from the protests. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 I think things are opening up way to fast and way to much. Look around the world at what is happening. By November when COVID is back with a vengence it will make this first go round look like kiddies day at the Ex. That's one thing that The Great Satan did right ... cancelling the Ex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 19, 2020 Report Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 hours ago, darksabre said: There's just no way this is going to work. Can you imagine the gnashing of teeth if a team loses a bunch of players to testing positive before a game and it costs them a win, or a series, or the Cup? Just cancel the season. Do you know how they're handling contact tracing? To do it right, if a player tests positive, then all of his close contacts would have to be in quarantine for 14 days. Or maybe daily testing supercedes that. 1 hour ago, New Scotland (NS) said: I think things are opening up way to fast and way to much. Look around the world at what is happening. By November when COVID is back with a vengence it will make this first go round look like kiddies day at the Ex. That's one thing that The Great Satan did right ... cancelling the Ex. At least in the U.S., it never went away. We modestly flattened the curve, but now there's clear evidence a second wave (or resurgence of the first wave) is beginning. Increasing positivity rates and hospital usage are telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 19 hours ago, PASabreFan said: At least in the U.S., it never went away. We modestly flattened the curve, but now there's clear evidence a second wave (or resurgence of the first wave) is beginning. Increasing positivity rates and hospital usage are telling. Because only some states acted properly to flatten the curve, and we can't prevent interstate travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eleven said: Because only some states acted properly to flatten the curve, and we can't prevent interstate travel. We prevented inter provincial travel here, except for essential services, and it helped. Why can't you guys close state borders, except for essential services? Oh, yeah, you have that guy in charge. 5 minutes ago, Eleven said: Because only some states acted properly to flatten the curve, and we can't prevent interstate travel. We prevented inter provincial travel here, except for essential services, and it helped. Why can't you guys close state borders, except for essential services? Oh, yeah, you have that guy in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Eleven said: Because only some states acted properly to flatten the curve, and we can't prevent interstate travel. We closed inter provincial borders here in NS and I am pretty sure everywhere in Canada, except for essential services, and it helped. Why could you not do the same down there? Oh, right ... you have 'that guy' in charge down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: We prevented inter provincial travel here, except for essential services, and it helped. Why can't you guys close state borders, except for essential services? Oh, yeah, you have that guy in charge. It has nothing to do with who is in charge. Interstate travel is a right protected by at least two provisions in the Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 ===== I think my internet connection is having some kind of conniption, or other ... LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Eleven said: It has nothing to do with who is in charge. Interstate travel is a right protected by at least two provisions in the Constitution. Same here, or similar provisions and understandings, but the governments declared a state of emergency which gave certain powers to the medical officers in eaxh province. One being restrictions on travel. We are not so bent out of shape by our goivernments temporarily taking away some liberties up here as you guys are. I think we may be continuing this in the politics club ... LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Same here, or similar provisions and understandings, but the governments declared a state of emergency which gave certain powers to the medical officers in eaxh province. One being restrictions on travel. We are not so bent out of shape by our goivernments temporarily taking away some liberties up here as you guys are. I think we may be continuing this in the politics club ... LOL!! It's not a matter of politics. Freedom of movement among the several states is a fundamental right, and that's that. We do not have any exception to or limit on that right, as we do on other rights enumerated in the Constitution. It may be limited only through the use of due process (e.g. a criminal conviction). Edited June 20, 2020 by Eleven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, Eleven said: It's not a matter of politics. Freedom of movement among the several states is a fundamental right, and that's that. We do not have any exception to or limit on that right, as we do on other rights enumerated in the Constitution. It may be limited only through the use of due process (e.g. a criminal conviction). In the US, even during a state of emergency, Interstate travel restrictions are not possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Curt said: In the US, even during a state of emergency, Interstate travel restrictions are not possible? Until our legal system is muzzled, this would not be possible. The day the restrictions begin, there will be hundreds of lawsuits (likely from individual state AGs). I think states can enact 14 day quarantines for anyone entering them, but it’s extremely hard to enforce them. Who’s to say people are just driving through your state? At least with air travel, you know where their final destination is and can quarantine as necessary. Florida did this from flight from NY. Now, municipalities are starving for tax revenue, so won’t close their borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Let's Go B-Lo said: I'm going to Vermont next month. I have to have documentation of a negative test or quarantine for 2 weeks or I can't go. I don't think citing Gibbons v. Ogden to a State Trooper is going to be super helpful. I don't think the state trooper can actually require you to quarantine. Not that I have any particular training in this field or anything... 8 hours ago, kas23 said: but it’s extremely hard to enforce them. And there we go. Nailed it. These ideas are great, but unsusceptible of enforcement. Edited June 21, 2020 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Eleven said: I don't think the state trooper can actually require you to quarantine. Not that I have any particular training in this field or anything... And there we go. Nailed it. These ideas are great, but unsusceptible of enforcement. It would only be an added charge if there was a reason to pull him over to begin with. There aren't blockades at the state boarders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, SwampD said: It would only be an added charge if there was a reason to pull him over to begin with. There aren't blockades at the state boarders. It wouldn't be an enforceable added charge, and if someone is a boarder, they presumably already live there. Anyway. Hockey, anyone? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Excellent article in the Athletic about some serious issues the NHL is facing as it prepares to resume the season: https://theathletic.com/1883384/2020/06/20/guys-are-not-happy-how-the-nhls-positive-tests-will-impact-return-to-play/ Quote Several NHL player agents surveyed by The Athletic this week indicated that more and more of their players are troubled by the idea of returning to play in a hub city environment. One prominent agent estimated that 35 to 40 percent of players were on the fence. Another suggested it was even higher than that. ... But the other, less discussed issue is there may not be a lot to gain financially given players have already collected most of their paychecks for the season and playoff games without fans in attendance will not be big revenue generators. While returning to play could save them an additional 7 or 8 percent of their salaries by way of escrow deductions thanks to making television and sponsorship agreements whole, the net impact for players on the low end of the salary scale could be trading two or three months in a bubble environment for $20,000 or $30,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) Not sure if this is breaking news, or old retread news ... Iggy got into the HOF. Edited June 24, 2020 by New Scotland (NS) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Hossa made it too ... https://twitter.com/NHL/status/1275896515983179777/photo/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-hall-of-fame-2020-class-1.5625644 Jarome Iginla Marian Hossa Kim St-Pierre Ken Holland Kevin Lowe Doug Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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