Randall Flagg Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Derrico said: VO is going to score 30 goals and win ROY. I’m being serious. I second this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Watching Olofsson bury feeds from Eichel is one of only two things I'm actually excited about this season. (The second is watching Dahlin's growth). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 We were an offensively challenged team last year (and for many years) with few goal scorers in the line up. I'm not sure VO will hold up to physicality against him and he MIGHT be a defensive liability (not sure on that) but we desperately need goal scoring so for now his presence should be a major upgrade. As for the Skinner-Jack line thing I think the idea of splitting them might make sense and certainly creates more balance. Sam likes to go to the net and pick up the rebounds but so does Skinner. Jack carries the puck and can make plays but Johanson is also a good passer/playmaker. Both lines could work. Skinner's numbers might drop a little but if the team total is higher............ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) I can't wait to watch Eichel score more one-timers. Teams won't be able to cover both him and VO, so I'm guessing we'll see them from both wings on our new PP! Edited September 27, 2019 by erickompositör72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 hours ago, #freejame said: Rob Ray is an idiot. VO has 25 goal potential this season and has a ceiling of around 30 through his career. He does a lot of other things well, but he’s going to be a pure goal scorer. Agreed 100%... if his conditioning holds up. I'm not saying he's out of shape, but it's his first year in the league and it's a long grueling season. Just ask Casey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 I think Victor is the best hockey player to be developed by the organization since (at least) Jason Pominville. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I think Victor is the best hockey player to be developed by the organization since (at least) Jason Pominville. I was thinking the same thing except.... It came into my mind as "He's our shiny new toy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said: Agreed 100%... if his conditioning holds up. I'm not saying he's out of shape, but it's his first year in the league and it's a long grueling season. Just ask Casey. Casey came out of college. Victor has played multiple shl seasons and AHL. They aren't the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, LGR4GM said: Casey came out of college. Victor has played multiple shl seasons and AHL. They aren't the same. Agreed. VO is much more prepared than Casey could have ever been. But the SHL plays 52 games a season, and the AHL plays 76. The AHL schedule is definitely the closest to the NHL, but the compete level is nowhere near the same. VO's going to have ups and downs during the season and it wouldn't be surprising to see him come off that first line at some point if he struggles. If that happens it will be interesting to see how he responds, and how he does playing with other forwards. People have been talking about him as a only a sniper, but that's really the only role he's been asked to play so far. I'm not sure what his ceiling is yet, or what type of player he could be, but I'm looking forward to watching him and trying to get a read on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I think Victor is the best hockey player to be developed by the organization since (at least) Jason Pominville. While he makes the future look bright, we really need to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I think Victor is the best hockey player to be developed by the organization since (at least) Jason Pominville. Besides, Dahlin, Eichel, Reinhart, and Vanek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Besides, Dahlin, Eichel, Reinhart, and Vanek. None of those guys were "developed" in the sense that I'm sure Mr. Flagg is meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, ... said: None of those guys were "developed" in the sense that I'm sure Mr. Flagg is meaning. Yeah. Like I'm talking player growth from moment drafted to final product while in the "possession" of the organization. I don't mean to claim he's as good as those players listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Randall Flagg said: Yeah. Like I'm talking player growth from moment drafted to final product while in the "possession" of the organization. I don't mean to claim he's as good as those players listed. You mean didn’t develop in the NHL. Eichel has certainly developed while in the organization. Reinhart also. They just were to good for the AHL and therefore developed in the NHL. We’ll see similar development from Dahlin as well. UPL might just steal that monicker. It’s also an indictment of our organization that we haven’t developed anyone since Vanek, Miller, Pommers and Roy, except Olofsson and McCabe. (Is he better then Sekera?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: You mean didn’t develop in the NHL. Eichel has certainly developed while in the organization. Reinhart also. They just were to good for the AHL and therefore developed in the NHL. We’ll see similar development from Dahlin as well. UPL might just steal that monicker. It’s also an indictment of our organization that we haven’t developed anyone since Vanek, Miller, Pommers and Roy, except Olofsson and McCabe. (Is he better then Sekera?). Well I don't think Reinhart/Eichel/Dahlin's growth from year one to now is quite as large as the growth of Olofsson from 2014 to what I expect him to be this year. Which will be incorrect if he falls short of where I think he'll be, but I anticipate him being a very, very good NHLer this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: I think Victor is the best hockey player to be developed by the organization since (at least) Jason Pominville. Not counting 1st or 2nd overall picks, right? Edit: ok, I read further down. I understand you. Edited September 27, 2019 by Curt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: Well I don't think Reinhart/Eichel/Dahlin's growth from year one to now is quite as large as the growth of Olofsson from 2014 to what I expect him to be this year. Which will be incorrect if he falls short of where I think he'll be, but I anticipate him being a very, very good NHLer this year Honestly think Reinhart's growth would be pretty close. Reinhart's actual ceiling seems to have trended up over the last couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: I think Victor is the best hockey player to be developed by the organization since (at least) Jason Pominville. I don’t disagree with this, but it’s worth noting that VOs skill as a hockey player was never in question. His shot was heralded prior to his draft, he was just tiny at a time where that wasn’t looked over as much. He’s grown significantly post-draft and had he been anywhere near the size he is now he wouldn’t have fallen as he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: I think Victor is the best hockey player to be developed by the organization since (at least) Jason Pominville. I think the SHL developed Victor Olofsson and the Sabres had 0 to do with it to be honest. But, I get the point, by leaving him alone, that helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I think the SHL developed Victor Olofsson and the Sabres had 0 to do with it to be honest. But, I get the point, by leaving him alone, that helped. True. I think Jason and Chris Taylor each did an excellent job with his last calendar year, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I think the SHL developed Victor Olofsson and the Sabres had 0 to do with it to be honest. But, I get the point, by leaving him alone, that helped. Every in-depth thing I’ve read or watched about Sabres prospects leads me to believe their staff is in constant contact with their prospects and actively involved in their development on and off the ice. Edited September 28, 2019 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 I think the sky is the limit for this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 He has had a full NA pro season. Successful! He did fade a bit toward the end but I have no doubt he will more than ready for the grind. Giddy up, kid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) See! We can collectively be positive about something! Whoops! Wrong GIF. Edited September 28, 2019 by ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, inkman said: I think the sky is the limit for this kid. I called it back in April when everyone was wringing their hands about signing Skinner. I will acknowledge it's still a small sample size. We'll see if he can sustain over a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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