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I'm absolutely starved of hockey content and I'm sure many of you are, too. This idea popped into my head so I'm going with it.

Going into this NHL season, who are your top ten NHLers? All positions apply. These are the guys who you think will have the ten best/most effective seasons. 

Mine will not have any goalies, because while I believe goalies have a huge impact on the game relative to any individual skater, it's too hard to pick which one will be great any given year. Gibson would be my guy though. 

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Mark Stone
6.) Nathan MacKinnon
7.) Brayden Point
8.) Erik Karlsson
9.) Nikita Kucherov
10.) Sean Couturier

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10 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm absolutely starved of hockey content and I'm sure many of you are, too. This idea popped into my head so I'm going with it.

Going into this NHL season, who are your top ten NHLers? All positions apply. These are the guys who you think will have the ten best/most effective seasons. 

Mine will not have any goalies, because while I believe goalies have a huge impact on the game relative to any individual skater, it's too hard to pick which one will be great any given year. Gibson would be my guy though. 

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Mark Stone
6.) Nathan MacKinnon
7.) Brayden Point
8.) Erik Karlsson
9.) Nikita Kucherov
10.) Sean Couturier

Can't argue with 9 of your 10.  I would swap in Ovi for Bergeron for 3 reasons:

1.  He's a Bruin

2.  He's a Bruin

3.  At 34, I think this is the year where he loses a step.

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5 minutes ago, Tondas said:

Can't argue with 9 of your 10.  I would swap in Ovi for Bergeron for 3 reasons:

1.  He's a Bruin

2.  He's a Bruin

3.  At 34, I think this is the year where he loses a step.

and He's a Bruin, did you mention that???

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22 minutes ago, Tondas said:

Can't argue with 9 of your 10.  I would swap in Ovi for Bergeron for 3 reasons:

1.  He's a Bruin

2.  He's a Bruin

3.  At 34, I think this is the year where he loses a step.

Ovi is interesting. I think he'd make my top 20...but I like Kane and Marchand more than him on the wing right now. Probably a couple others that I can't think of at the moment. Doing this by position might be fun too, maybe I'll do that later

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38 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Mark Stone
6.) Nathan MacKinnon
7.) Brayden Point
8.) Erik Karlsson
9.) Nikita Kucherov
10.) Sean Couturier

Surprising

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4 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Surprising

That's assuming EK can walk again. 

And with Sid, Bergeron, Barkov, Stone, Point, and Couts, I think it's pretty evident the type of player that is my favorite 🙂

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I hope eichel cracks the top 10, once. 

Matthew's, is creeping up there though. 

Aho and Raantennen (sp) are sleepers

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2 hours ago, Tondas said:

Can't argue with 9 of your 10.  I would swap in Ovi for Bergeron for 3 reasons:

1.  He's a Bruin

2.  He's a Bruin

3.  At 34, I think this is the year where he loses a step.

Isn't the marker for decline 30?  Both Ovi and Patrice are same age - 34.    Since turning 30,  Ovi has averaged 47 goals a year, 80 points a year, and 20 minutes of Ice-time.   Which is exactly 17 more goals a year, 13 more total points a year, and almost a minute of TOI than Patrice.  Also more durable playing an average of 9 more games a year than Bergeron.   He's a Captain, and has more cups  during this period (2015-present).   Ovi is in the top 5 until he isn't.  Showing no signs of decline.  If anyone is going to fall off, it's Patrice

Oh, and if hasn't been mentioned, he's a Bruin. 

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3 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

Isn't the marker for decline 30?  Both Ovi and Patrice are same age - 34.    Since turning 30,  Ovi has averaged 47 goals a year, 80 points a year, and 20 minutes of Ice-time.   Which is exactly 17 more goals a year, 13 more total points a year, and almost a minute of TOI than Patrice.  Also more durable playing an average of 9 more games a year than Bergeron.   He's a Captain, and has more cups  during this period (2015-present).   Ovi is in the top 5 until he isn't.  Showing no signs of decline.  If anyone is going to fall off, it's Patrice

Oh, and if hasn't been mentioned, he's a Bruin. 

We're on the same page.  And I could have added several more reasons, but I didn't want to be redundant.

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4 hours ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm absolutely starved of hockey content and I'm sure many of you are, too. This idea popped into my head so I'm going with it.

Going into this NHL season, who are your top ten NHLers? All positions apply. These are the guys who you think will have the ten best/most effective seasons. 

Mine will not have any goalies, because while I believe goalies have a huge impact on the game relative to any individual skater, it's too hard to pick which one will be great any given year. Gibson would be my guy though. 

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Mark Stone
6.) Nathan MacKinnon
7.) Brayden Point
8.) Erik Karlsson
9.) Nikita Kucherov
10.) Sean Couturier

Pretty good list. Not that I disagree with anyone on the list but, NHL.comhas a TOP 20 Centers thingie out. Sean Couturier doesn't make the list. 

 

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-network-top-players-top-20-centers/c-308421032?tid=290583266

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Couturier definitely should be in the top 10. The deeper you dive on his numbers and contributions the better he looks. Not being in the top 20 centres is a joke, but NHL network never had good lists. 

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1 hour ago, MakeSabresGrr8Again said:

Pretty good list. Not that I disagree with anyone on the list but, NHL.comhas a TOP 20 Centers thingie out. Sean Couturier doesn't make the list. 

 

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-network-top-players-top-20-centers/c-308421032?tid=290583266

Thanks! I'm not surprised he escaped, and I probably have him too high overall. I just really love the elite two-way forwards. Cup winners come in all shapes and sizes, but they always seem to have one of those guys.

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Breaking down by position...
Centers
1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Nathan MacKinnon
6.) Brayden Point
7.) Sean Couturier
8.) Mark Scheifele (need a bounceback season from him)
9.) John Tavares
10.) Steven Stamkos

Honorable mentions: Auston Matthews, Sebastian Aho, Tyler Seguin, Jonathan Toews, Jack Eichel, Ryan O'Reilly, Dylan Larkin, Evgeny Kuznetsov, Elias Pettersson, Hertl, maybe more!

Left Wingers
1.) Tulsi Gabbard
2.) Marianne Williamson
1.) Brad Marchand
2.) Johnny Hockey
3.) Artemi Panarin
4.) Taylor Hall
5.) Alex Ovechkin
6.) Filip Forsberg
7.) Matt Tkachuk
8.) Jonathan Huberdeau
9.) Jake Guentzel
10.) Leon Draisaitl

Right Wingers
1.) Mark Stone
2.) Nikita Kucherov
3.) Patrick Kane
4.) Mitch Marner
5.) Claude Giroux
6.) David Pastrnak
7.) Vladimir Tarasenko
8.) Brendan Gallagher
9.) Mikko Rantanen
10.) Timo Meier

Defensemen
1.) Erik Karlsson
2.) Victor Hedman
3.) Seth Jones
4.) Morgan Rielly
5.) Charlie McAvoy
6.) Mark Giordano
7.) Thomas Chabot
8.) Colton Parayko (probably too high but I love this guy)
9.) Brent Burns
10.) David Savard or John Carlson

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Crosby

Bergeron

McDavid

Kutcherov

McDonagh

Tavares

Point

Marchand

P Kane

Coutourier

What my drafting model says:

1 NIKITA KUCHEROV NHL 7418
2 CONNOR MCDAVID NHL 4759
3 TAYLOR HALL NHL 3947
4 MORGAN RIELLY NHL 3863
5 JOHNNY GAUDREAU NHL 3863
6 JACK EICHEL NHL 3749
7 VICTOR HEDMAN NHL 3734
8 DAVID PASTRNAK NHL 3535
9 MATT DUCHENE NHL 3526
10 BRAYDEN POINT NHL 3522
 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm absolutely starved of hockey content and I'm sure many of you are, too. This idea popped into my head so I'm going with it.

Going into this NHL season, who are your top ten NHLers? All positions apply. These are the guys who you think will have the ten best/most effective seasons. 

Mine will not have any goalies, because while I believe goalies have a huge impact on the game relative to any individual skater, it's too hard to pick which one will be great any given year. Gibson would be my guy though. 

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Mark Stone
6.) Nathan MacKinnon
7.) Brayden Point
8.) Erik Karlsson
9.) Nikita Kucherov
10.) Sean Couturier

As much as I love a good debate with you, we have a remarkably similar taste in hockey players.

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10 hours ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm absolutely starved of hockey content and I'm sure many of you are, too. This idea popped into my head so I'm going with it.

Going into this NHL season, who are your top ten NHLers? All positions apply. These are the guys who you think will have the ten best/most effective seasons. 

Mine will not have any goalies, because while I believe goalies have a huge impact on the game relative to any individual skater, it's too hard to pick which one will be great any given year. Gibson would be my guy though. 

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Mark Stone
6.) Nathan MacKinnon
7.) Brayden Point
8.) Erik Karlsson
9.) Nikita Kucherov
10.) Sean Couturier

What no ROR! 

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1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

What no ROR! 

Who? 

😂😂😂😂

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My way of interpreting a 'Top 10' is by asking the question, which 10 players in the league do teams focus their strategy around neutralizing?  There are players who meet this metric who are just on trash teams (like Eichel), but that doesn't mean they are any less dangerous in a vacuum.

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Alex Ovechkin
4.) Jack Eichel
5.) Aleksander Barkov
6.) Nikita Kucherov
7.) Artemi Panarin
8.) Nathan MacKinnon
9.) Mathew Barzal
10.) John Tavares

 

Yes, all centers and wingers.  Karlson has fallen off a cliff.

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17 hours ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm absolutely starved of hockey content and I'm sure many of you are, too. This idea popped into my head so I'm going with it.

Going into this NHL season, who are your top ten NHLers? All positions apply. These are the guys who you think will have the ten best/most effective seasons. 

Mine will not have any goalies, because while I believe goalies have a huge impact on the game relative to any individual skater, it's too hard to pick which one will be great any given year. Gibson would be my guy though. 

1.) Connor McDavid
2.) Sidney Crosby
3.) Patrice Bergeron
4.) Aleksander Barkov
5.) Mark Stone
6.) Nathan MacKinnon
7.) Brayden Point
8.) Erik Karlsson
9.) Nikita Kucherov
10.) Sean Couturier

Lemieux... Gret.... oh you mean current lineup... just waiting for my CT measurements for treatment... and in a mood...

I would switch a couple off this list though if I was building a team for forwards this list would be close... I would sub Wheeler for Barkov, better goal scorer... Barzal and Jack have to be in there somewhere subbing out Karlsson and maybe Bergeron...

Think you need a separate list of top six D.

Karrlson, Hedman, Doughty, Dahlin, one of the St Louis D... they have 3 that are close but different styles and probably MacAvoy cough cough a Bruin..

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  1. McDavid
  2. Crosby
  3. Kucherov
  4. Barkov
  5. P. Kane
  6. Burns
  7. Marchand
  8. MacKinnon
  9. Tavares
  10. Gaudreau

Burns scored over a point a game as a Dman, I don't know how he doesn't make the list.

 

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1 hour ago, North Buffalo said:

Lemieux... Gret.... oh you mean current lineup... just waiting for my CT measurements for treatment... and in a mood...

I would switch a couple off this list though if I was building a team for forwards this list would be close... I would sub Wheeler for Barkov, better goal scorer... Barzal and Jack have to be in there somewhere subbing out Karlsson and maybe Bergeron...

Think you need a separate list of top six D.

Karrlson, Hedman, Doughty, Dahlin, one of the St Louis D... they have 3 that are close but different styles and probably MacAvoy cough cough a Bruin..

I really liked Wheeler two seasons ago, but I think he's a bit of a headache captain, and even though he still scored a lot this year, my impression is he definitely fell off. 

 

 

23 minutes ago, jsb said:
  1. McDavid
  2. Crosby
  3. Kucherov
  4. Barkov
  5. P. Kane
  6. Burns
  7. Marchand
  8. MacKinnon
  9. Tavares
  10. Gaudreau

Burns scored over a point a game as a Dman, I don't know how he doesn't make the list.

 

I just reeeeeally don't like Burns in his own zone. He's in my top 10 D though.

And I know, I know, EK isn't great there either, but he's better and when he's on he's the best defenseman in the offensive zone that I've ever had the privilege of watching

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