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ERod -- 1 yr, $2MM, after being > $1 million apart in arbitration


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18 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

Hasn't the NHL's rule always been that the arbitrator gets to pick any number within the range?  Baseball is the one where they take one number or the other.

No.  In a prior CBA it was choose between the 2.  Hasn't been that way for a long time.

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17 minutes ago, Taro T said:

No.  In a prior CBA it was choose between the 2.  Hasn't been that way for a long time.

I'm doing a little digging on this since I never remember that to be the case in the NHL.  So far, the furthest I've checked so far is this from 1993, which mentions the arbitrator being able to pick any number within the range.  It does mention some changes in 1992, but I'm too lazy to go back any further.  That's far enough back to the point where I wouldn't have had any clue what salary arbitration was.

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12 hours ago, North Buffalo said:

Erod is a swiss army knife and can play center or wing.  I am betting Larrson or Girgs goes before he does... but right now a 2 year deal at 1.7 or 1.8 isn't bad.

But like with most swiss army knives you can't get that little blade out easily and it's not very sharp and most of those little attachments or thingies are kind of useless. I mean have you ever tried to actually open a can with a swiss army knife can opener? good luck.

I think ERod is ok but he's not worth the concern and definitely not worth his number. 

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37 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

But like with most swiss army knives you can't get that little blade out easily and it's not very sharp and most of those little attachments or thingies are kind of useless. I mean have you ever tried to actually open a can with a swiss army knife can opener? good luck.

I think ERod is ok but he's not worth the concern and definitely not worth his number. 

It’s better then the French Army Knife.  The one with a cork screw, fork and a white flag.

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32 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

It’s better then the French Army Knife.  The one with a cork screw, fork and a white flag.

See now you got me rolling, I guess it's like the French Army Rifle that was on sale at the gun club. Never Fired, once dropped. 

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17 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Did you guys hear the one about the 19 year old French solider? 

He sailed across the Atlantic to help lead American revolutionaries against a tyrannical government and cemented the French’s legacy as America’s greatest allie. 

Did you just go and see Hamilton on Broadway?  

Or did you hear the one about the 11424 American and Canadian soldiers (including my 2nd cousin) buried at Normandy who gave their lives to liberate France from the Germans in WW2.  Our debt to Lafayette has been paid many times over.

If Erod is a Swiss Army Knife player is Sobotka a French Army Knife player?

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1 hour ago, #freejame said:

Did you guys hear the one about the 19 year old French solider? 

He sailed across the Atlantic to help lead American revolutionaries against a tyrannical government and cemented the French’s legacy as America’s greatest allie. 

A typo that just happens to be a common girl’s name. That shouldn’t fuel them at all. 

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38 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Did you just go and see Hamilton on Broadway?  

Or did you hear the one about the 11424 American and Canadian soldiers (including my 2nd cousin) buried at Normandy who gave their lives to liberate France from the Germans in WW2.  Our debt to Lafayette has been paid many times over.

If Erod is a Swiss Army Knife player is Sobotka a French Army Knife player?

I’ve never seen Hamilton, I’m just not too keen on belittling the French. I served when plenty of Frenchmen in Afghanistan who were just as brave as any American. The point of allies isn’t in-debtedness, it’s solidarity. When we need the French they are there for us. When the French need us, it is our duty to come running (or parachuting because ***** legs)

2 minutes ago, shrader said:

A typo that just happens to be a common girl’s name. That shouldn’t fuel them at all. 

Leaving it for posterity. My subconscious is arguing against me it seems. 

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E-Rod is a solid middle-6 forward with NHL caliber offensive skill.  A player of that ilk is worth somewhere in the $2M per year range, which is right in between E-Rod's number and the Sabres' number.  I suspect that the arbitrator will award him something around that number and everyone will be happy.  Alternatively, his agent and the team will agree to it on their own prior to the hearing, and everyone will be happy.  The Sabres are protecting their interests (salary cap and Pegula's checkbook) by bidding a little bit low and E-Rod is protecting his by bidding a little high (get as much as you can, when you can).  It will all work out.  Not much of a news story here, but it's the off-season.

And I have no comments about the French, but I can verify that a pair of tickets to Hamilton on Broadway run in the same price range as E-Rod's contract.  My wife and I had a bit of a spat about it last time we were in NYC.  She wanted to go at all costs and I refused to pay almost $1,000 per ticket.

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Please, Please enough with this nationalistic stuff. Frankly, if it wasn't for the Russians (who I believe lost more lives) we wouldn't have won the war. We should realize the sun doesn't rise and set on us. Before you get bent out of shape I served and I'm not putting down anyone but my opinion and emotions aren't based on what my relatives may have done although I respect them. Just seems there's a lot of flag wavers who haven't served in fact a few are ones who dodged the draft because of family connections. Okay, that's my rant.

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25 minutes ago, Radar said:

Please, Please enough with this nationalistic stuff. Frankly, if it wasn't for the Russians (who I believe lost more lives) we wouldn't have won the war. We should realize the sun doesn't rise and set on us. Before you get bent out of shape I served and I'm not putting down anyone but my opinion and emotions aren't based on what my relatives may have done although I respect them. Just seems there's a lot of flag wavers who haven't served in fact a few are ones who dodged the draft because of family connections. Okay, that's my rant.

If they brought nukes to Europe they would’ve won still

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16 minutes ago, triumph_communes said:

If they brought nukes to Europe they would’ve won still

?????? Do you know who had "nukes" at that time? The point is I'm sick of this idea we're the heroes and saviors of the world.  Our draft dodging leader thinks we can survive without allies who played important roles in our history and is disrespectful of them. Now we seem to have brought it into a sports forum. So be it. I'm voicing my response.

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1 hour ago, msw2112 said:

E-Rod is a solid middle-6 forward with NHL caliber offensive skill.  A player of that ilk is worth somewhere in the $2M per year range, which is right in between E-Rod's number and the Sabres' number.  I suspect that the arbitrator will award him something around that number and everyone will be happy.  Alternatively, his agent and the team will agree to it on their own prior to the hearing, and everyone will be happy.  The Sabres are protecting their interests (salary cap and Pegula's checkbook) by bidding a little bit low and E-Rod is protecting his by bidding a little high (get as much as you can, when you can).  It will all work out.  Not much of a news story here, but it's the off-season.

And I have no comments about the French, but I can verify that a pair of tickets to Hamilton on Broadway run in the same price range as E-Rod's contract.  My wife and I had a bit of a spat about it last time we were in NYC.  She wanted to go at all costs and I refused to pay almost $1,000 per ticket.

So, how was the play?

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18 minutes ago, Radar said:

?????? Do you know who had "nukes" at that time? The point is I'm sick of this idea we're the heroes and saviors of the world.  Our draft dodging leader thinks we can survive without allies who played important roles in our history and is disrespectful of them. Now we seem to have brought it into a sports forum. So be it. I'm voicing my response.

Germans didn’t yet

 

and I’m voicing mine since you seem to be blinded by orange man’s hairdo. If Europe actually paid their fair share of military spending they couldn’t afford all their nice socialist things. Instead they’ve been abusing American military dominance for decades. They earn every inch of ire. 

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21 minutes ago, Radar said:

?????? Do you know who had "nukes" at that time? The point is I'm sick of this idea we're the heroes and saviors of the world.  Our draft dodging leader thinks we can survive without allies who played important roles in our history and is disrespectful of them. Now we seem to have brought it into a sports forum. So be it. I'm voicing my response.

You are the one who took this from a little lighthearted joking around to making it political. There's a place for your political commentary and that is not here. It's called PPP (Politics Polls and Pundits) and can be found as a sub forum at TSW.

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15 minutes ago, triumph_communes said:

Germans didn’t yet

 

and I’m voicing mine since you seem to be blinded by orange man’s hairdo. If Europe actually paid their fair share of military spending they couldn’t afford all their nice socialist things. Instead they’ve been abusing American military dominance for decades. They earn every inch of ire. 

Not blinded at all by him or his mindless narcissistic views. We need to appreciate our allies although we may not view the world exactly the same. Orange man is brainless , who thanks to daddy, has money. When you used socialist in your comment I get where your coming from. We have our system of economics and they have theirs. So what does that have to do with it?

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1 minute ago, grinreaper said:

You are the one who took this from a little lighthearted joking around to making it political. There's a place for your political commentary and that is not here. It's called PPP (Politics Polls and Pundits) and can be found as a sub forum at TSW.

Thanks. Lighthearted joking? Maybe. In any case you're probably correct.

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11 minutes ago, Radar said:

Not blinded at all by him or his mindless narcissistic views. We need to appreciate our allies although we may not view the world exactly the same. Orange man is brainless , who thanks to daddy, has money.

Telling your roommate they need to do their share of the chores doesn’t mean you don’t appreciate them. Lol, if you have to turn a hockey forum post into an orange man bad soapbox he’s in your head rent free. 

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6 minutes ago, triumph_communes said:

Telling your roommate they need to do their share of the chores doesn’t mean you don’t appreciate them. Lol, if you have to turn a hockey forum post into an orange man bad soapbox he’s in your head rent free. 

What does that have to do with "socialistic". Just asking. I didn't start this. The poster gets a pass for being sarcastic? Okay........I'm Just being sarcastic, so get over  it.

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Ugh, ERods thread was hijacked after a few funny stereotype jokes about the French. They are a solid ally, but their military has been a joke many times in history. The French Resistance on the other hand kicked ass. 

I am a tad confused though how a talk about a US player and a Czech ended up talking about politics and the French.

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3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Ugh, ERods thread was hijacked after a few funny stereotype jokes about the French. They are a solid ally, but their military has been a joke many times in history. The French Resistance on the other hand kicked ass. 

I am a tad confused though how a talk about a US player and a Czech ended up talking about politics and the French.

ERod was compared to a Swiss Army Knife. GASabreFan ad libbed his well rehearsed comment regarding A French Military Knife consisting of a corkscrew, fork and white flag. I made a perfectly appropriate and immensely funny comment along the same lines and off we went.

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1 hour ago, grinreaper said:

ERod was compared to a Swiss Army Knife. GASabreFan ad libbed his well rehearsed comment regarding A French Military Knife consisting of a corkscrew, fork and white flag. I made a perfectly appropriate and immensely funny comment along the same lines and off we went.

So basically it's all because you ran with a knife.....

 

Didn't your mother warn you about running with knives? See what happens when you don't listen to mom.

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3 minutes ago, woods-racer said:

So basically it's all because you ran with a knife.....

 

Didn't your mother warn you about running with knives? See what happens when you don't listen to mom.

She never said anything about running with a knife. It was scissors that she warned me about.

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