inkman Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I'm open to adding or amending any choices. These are just what came to mind first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Bottom pair guy that can step up a bit if needed, I'd give him 3 mill though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Capable bottom-pair guy. Nothing more. Nothing wrong with that, either, provided he plays where he belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I need an option for a 4/5 guy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 --The only mean defenseman left after Ristolainen is traded. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I like Jake McCabe. I wish he didn't miss so many games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Eleven said: --The only mean defenseman left after Ristolainen is traded. Ristolainen has never fought anybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Balls Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, Eleven said: --The only mean defenseman left after Ristolainen is traded. Psycho Bogo would like a word with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, WildCard said: Ristolainen has never fought anybody Didn't say he fights--he's mean. Stick in the other guy's back (or worse) all the time. If you're near his goalie after a whistle, expect a shove. That stuff. Too few Sabres defensemen have it. 3 minutes ago, Claude Balls said: Psycho Bogo would like a word with you Maybe... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Eleven said: Didn't say he fights--he's mean. Stick in the other guy's back (or worse) all the time. If you're near his goalie after a whistle, expect a shove. That stuff. Too few Sabres defensemen have it. Maybe... Does it mean anything if he doesn't do anything with it? I get the impression nobody respects Risto's 'toughness' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, ... said: I need an option for a 4/5 guy. Just pick one slash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, WildCard said: Does it mean anything if he doesn't do anything with it? I get the impression nobody respects Risto's 'toughness' I think a few guys do including Ovi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, WildCard said: Ristolainen has never fought anybody You don’t have to fight to be tough. He’s doesn’t take crap after the whistle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Jake was always good for at least one "Oh, my God. Is that guy dead?" hit a game. He was also always good for at least one "Oh, my God. WTF was he thinking?!" play. Before he got injured last year, I thought he did a good job not doing the latter and was playing well (one of our better defenseman, actually.) My hope is that he learns to not always go for the kill shot and can end up playing more games. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, WildCard said: Does it mean anything if he doesn't do anything with it? I get the impression nobody respects Risto's 'toughness' If guys whack at the puck after the whistle he’s one of the only D that will do something about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Derrico said: You don’t have to fight to be tough. He’s doesn’t take crap after the whistle. He just seems like the 'hold me back bro' kinda guy Just now, Derrico said: If guys whack at the puck after the whistle he’s one of the only D that will do something about it. And then they continue to whack because they know he's not gonna do anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I like McCabe a lot. Brings toughness and grit. Reminds me of Mike Ramsey. But I still had to go with 3rd pair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, WildCard said: He just seems like the 'hold me back bro' kinda guy And then they continue to whack because they know he's not gonna do anything Disagree. Atleast it’s something. He and McCabe are the only guys that clear the crease, that’s why it keeps happening. I don’t want to keep Risto solely for his physical play but I don’t think this is a quality that should be completely overlooked either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Derrico said: Disagree. Atleast it’s something. He and McCabe are the only guys that clear the crease, that’s why it keeps happening. I don’t want to keep Risto solely for his physical play but I don’t think this is a quality that should be completely overlooked either. Does Risto actually clear the crease when it matters? i.e. during the play? @Randall Flagg ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 I love Dahlin. I love Montour. I love Pilut. None of those guys come close to doing some of the physical work that Risto does. Now rumours of Gardiner. You can’t have all those types come playoff time (I know I know, let’s get there first). 1 minute ago, WildCard said: Does Risto actually clear the crease when it matters? i.e. during the play? @Randall Flagg ? Is there even fancy stats available on that type of thing?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Derrico said: I love Dahlin. I love Montour. I love Pilut. None of those guys come close to doing some of the physical work that Risto does. Now rumours of Gardiner. You can’t have all those types come playoff time (I know I know, let’s get there first). Is there even fancy stats available on that type of thing?? I was hoping he had video 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, WildCard said: I was hoping he had video Haha nah. I've dried up my video unfortunately - only watched 15 games or so This coming season I plan on having a lot more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 He is a perfect 20 minute a night guy that can skate, be physical, add occasional O and complement a more free wheeling partner. Hank Tallinder or Lydman as a comparison. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: He is a perfect 20 minute a night guy that can skate, be physical, add occasional O and complement a more free wheeling partner. Hank Tallinder or Lydman as a comparison. I think those guys were much better puck movers than Jake is, and were also more polished with defense fundamentals. Each had stretches of incredible play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, WildCard said: I was hoping he had video I absolutely love the video. I really appreciate the time @Randall Flagg does. Amazing poster. But you can find random video examples of nearly anything. I love it as a contributory post to a greater point. Not as the sole basis of the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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