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On 7/11/2019 at 10:23 AM, Taro T said:

Bogosian, even without Ristolainen should be slotted into the 3rd D pairing when healthy.  If Miller can't play 2nd pairing with Dahlin, then we have bigger issues than we thought.

The bigger concern would be losing Montour or Miller before Bogosian is ready to return.

Pretty much every D- man that's spent any time up last year except Scandella can play on the right side in a pinch.  They may not (well, that's putting it mildly) have the best RD in the league but they have the deepest.  Even without Risto.

Absolutely.  Pretty sure nobody here has said the return should be anything less than a true 2C or 2RW at minimum.

But, just have to believe that Botterill has a plan to make that happen before October 3.

Agree, except Dahlin will be first pair. 

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On 7/11/2019 at 10:58 AM, dudacek said:

Never mind the surplus issue, I’m really curious about the character of our defence next year.

It’s shaping up to be absolutely loaded with high-risk, high-reward guys who want the puck on their sticks who can skate and move; we have four guys capable of 40-point seasons, all of whom will want PP time, none of whom have shown themselves capable of being shutdown guys. And our top prospects (Pilut and Jokiharju) are of the same mould.

I can’t recall a similar defence core being iced in the NHL. Even the highly skilled groups we’ve seen recently in Nashville and Anaheim had their share of guys who were strong both ways.

Who are our shutdown guys? Are we going to overwhelmed by physical teams? Will our transition game make that irrelevant because we are out of the zone so quickly? Are we going to get a huge boost to our offence?

it’s going to be interesting.

Dahlin's offence is so good that sometimes people forget he was also viewed a a prodigious defenseman because he can, well, defend. We all take for granted his offence increasing, his D play is going to, too. Greatly. He's not some sort of one-trick pony on D. 

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26 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Agree, except Dahlin will be first pair. 

By the end of the year he will be.  Expecting him to start the season on the 2nd pair getting essentially the same time as McCabe who'd be starting the year with Montour.

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Hopefully a depth chart on D of

Dahlin Montour

McCabe Miller

Scandella Jokiharju

can play close to even minutes 5 on 5 with specific players getting the extra minutes on special teams. 

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32 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Dahlin's offence is so good that sometimes people forget he was also viewed a a prodigious defenseman because he can, well, defend. We all take for granted his offence increasing, his D play is going to, too. Greatly. He's not some sort of one-trick pony on D. 

Absolutely.  He is very good at boxing guys out in front of the net, 2nd only to Bogosian, and he's a friggin' teenager.  Imagine how good he'll be at that when he's "man strong." And once he improves against the rush (particularly the odd man rush) he'll pretty much have the full tool set.  (A couple of other things to improve upon, such as getting a harder shot, but that was the biggest thing I'd like to see improved.).

AND, he'll only be 19 when the puck drops this October.  That is flat out amazing.

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11 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Absolutely.  He is very good at boxing guys out in front of the net, 2nd only to Bogosian, and he's a friggin' teenager.  Imagine how good he'll be at that when he's "man strong." And once he improves against the rush (particularly the odd man rush) he'll pretty much have the full tool set.  (A couple of other things to improve upon, such as getting a harder shot, but that was the biggest thing I'd like to see improved.).

AND, he'll only be 19 when the puck drops this October.  That is flat out amazing.

There's also a nasty side to his game. As an 18 year old he already had the odd "lumber laying" hit, he's going to be a *truck* at 22. 

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9 minutes ago, Taro T said:

AND, he'll only be 19 when the puck drops this October.  That is flat out amazing.

AND he will still be 19 at the END of next season, unless Buffalo makes a deep playoff run.

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Just now, Curt said:

 

AND he will still be 19 at the END of next season, unless Buffalo makes a deep playoff run.

Well, here's to him turning 20 this season.  🍺

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Dahlin getting stronger and mentally mature is going to be something to watch. I honestly can't project what his ceiling is. 18 year old defenders don't do what he did. Hell 21 year old defenders rarely do what he did. I just hope they keep pushing him and he keeps pushing himself to be the best. 

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21 hours ago, Thorny said:

Agree, except Dahlin will be first pair. 

 

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On 7/12/2019 at 8:56 PM, MakeSabresGrr8Again said:

I.m not an Advanced Stats guy , so take it easy on me......this is just a serious question, and here goes...

When we signed Vesey, I thought I read somewhere that he was spending time last season on the PK. If true, how well did he survive in that role (I.m assuming not well?).

Do your stats reflect anything other than even strength? How would PK time effect results(if he actually had PK role).

If he did play on PK, could that be the reason for the part I Bolded about "signs of growth"?  Just curious.

Vesey did spend some time on the PK. While he was on the ice, the other team scored 12.74 goals against per 60. To give you a comparison to the Buffalo PK, ERod is the worst regular at 7.58. Risto at 6.89... Girgensons was the best regular at 5.35

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27 minutes ago, rakish said:

Vesey did spend some time on the PK. While he was on the ice, the other team scored 12.74 goals against per 60. To give you a comparison to the Buffalo PK, ERod is the worst regular at 7.58. Risto at 6.89... Girgensons was the best regular at 5.35

Thanks for the info, was hoping for better.

Maybe they played him on PK hoping to improve his D awareness without any real success. Doesn't look good.

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