Huckleberry Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Ristolainen - Montour - Miller - Jokiharu - Bogosian - Nelson - Borgen - Laaksoonen. Bogosian and Nelson are goners I think, Ristolainen maybe as well but the offer will really have to blow him away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) I’m wondering about JBot’s reasoning for this particular move: Hawks really like Nylander and when they offered Jokiharju he couldn’t resist? He didn’t figure Nylander was on his roster this year and shopped him while he still had value, Hawks made the best offer? He needed another RD because he is poised to move one? Edited July 9, 2019 by dudacek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Looks good on paper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Nylander to Chicago For Jokiharju!? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Derrico said: Some high praise out there for this kid. Never heard of him up until 5 min ago so taking some of it with a grain of salt. I was always under the impression he was to Hawk fans what Guhle was to Sabres fans a few years back: a good prospect that was somewhat overhyped because fans needed someone to give them hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Eleven said: GIVE ME ALL OF THE DEFENSEMEN. All your D are belong to us. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, Huckleberry said: Ristolainen - Montour - Miller - Jokiharu - Bogosian - Nelson - Borgen - Laaksoonen. Bogosian and Nelson are goners I think, Ristolainen maybe as well but the offer will really have to blow him away. I don't think this is right at all. Nobody is taking Bogosian off our hands, and Nelson profiles as the type of D that Botterill values, even if only in a depth role. I don't think acquiring a young Dman with little NHL experience necessitates a Risto trade right this very second...but the tea leaves are pretty clearly blowing in that direction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ho-Chi-Sock Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, North Buffalo said: A swedish finnish? Taste good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, Let's Go B-Lo said: Pittsburgh has Letang, Schultz, Gudbranson and Ruhwedel as RHD LA has Doughty, Martinez several other guys I don't know on NHL deals. 6 RHD total, only 2 LHD for them though. Edmonton has Larrson, Russell, and the rights to Benning and Persson so yeah they need a guy. Think I misread the reddit thread from teams that need LHD instead of RHD lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 It's funny. I thought it was FHCPH who was supposed to deliver this team to glory with a D-based attack. Yet here's JBOT -- poised to have the Sabres ice 5 D at a time following PH's termination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, dudacek said: I was always under the impression he was to Hawk fans what Guhle was to Sabres fans a few years back: a good prospect that was somewhat overhyped because fans needed someone to give them hope. Guhle never looked as good in NHL action as this kid has... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: I’m wondering about JBot’s reasoning for this particular move: Hawks really like Nylander and when they offered Jokiharju he couldn’t resist? He didn’t figure Nylander was on his roster this year and shopped him while he still had value, Hawks made the best offer? He needed another RD because he is poised to move one? It doesn't have to happen in the grand scheme of things. But c'mon now. Risto is sooooooo gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 It has to be more, but Botts seems to be doing this one step at a time... so maybe time to just sit and watch... still would love for a big splash... these little drips are killing me with eh.. okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, darksabre said: Guhle never looked as good in NHL action as this kid has... Not even close really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallawaySabres Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 This guy loves it..... https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2019/07/09/trade-sabres-nab-jokiharju-blackhawks-receive-alex-nylander/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Thing is, this kid is supposed to be NHL ready. Five years ago, Bogosian, Jokiharju Nelson would have been an improvement on our NHL right side. As it stands right now they’re all in the press box. WTF is JBot up to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Maybe it's like a buffet thing. "Carolina RHD buffet, RHD gravy for your biscuits" But look out, here comes a competitor...……. "Buffalo DEFENSEMEN SMORGASBOARD, YOU WANT'EM, WE GOT'EM" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, klos1963 said: https://theathletic.com/1068059/2019/07/09/heylaz-mailbag-what-are-the-blackhawks-doing-with-henri-jokiharju/ Don't know of the writer, but he seems to think this guy is a top 4 NHL defenseman right now. Here's a bit more from the Athletic on Joki: Quote I saw enough out of Jokiharju last season to know he’s a legitimate top-four defenseman in the NHL right now, and a future top-pairing guy — which the Blackhawks desperately need in the present and the future. He has the skills, the smarts, the savvy and the self-possession to be a very good player for a very long time. And while the Blackhawks are loaded with promising defensive prospects, only Jokiharju has proven he can actually do it at the NHL level. 6 minutes ago, erickompositör72 said: Could JBott be preparing to let McCabe walk? Not impossible but pretty doubtful IMHO. McCabe is an asset, albeit with a somewhat depressed value due to injury and team suckitude. JB might want to move him to make room for one of the FNGs, but not without getting a decent draft pick or prospect in return. 5 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: So, we are stacking D. This is a strong indication more is coming, and not just on the Right Handed D side either. The earlier reports of Buffalo speaking with Gardiner, especially given just how bad Scandella played and the oft Injured McCabe, it looks like pieces are being put in place for a near complete D rebuild, including depth. No? Totally agree. By the end of this coming season I think almost all of the pre-JB guys will be gone. 4 minutes ago, woods-racer said: It could be as innocent as JBott was shopping Nylander and got offered this. But your assessment is not out of the realm. 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: I’m wondering about JBot’s reasoning for this particular move: Hawks really like Nylander and when they offered Jokiharju he couldn’t resist? He didn’t figure Nylander was on his roster this year and shopped him while he still had value, Hawks made the best offer? He needed another RD because he is poised to move one? I think the bolded and @woods-racerare the right call here -- JB decided to move on from Nylander before his value declined any further -- which JB figured would occur this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: It doesn't have to happen in the grand scheme of things. But c'mon now. Risto is sooooooo gone. You know I agree, but that still leaves us with 5 NHL RD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, dudacek said: Thing is, this kid is supposed to be NHL ready. Five years ago, Bogosian, Jokiharju Nelson would have been an improvement on our NHL right side. As it stands right now they’re all in the press box. WTF is JBot up to? I'd imagine Risto is gone and Bogo will be after this season. Miller and Montour in the top-4 on the right, with Nelson/Jokiharju/Borgen battling for 3rd pair after this year. In the near term, there's enough depth to cover for Bogo not being ready to start the season and Risto being traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Maybe Pilut's injury is worse than thought? He's a lefty, though, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: All your D are belong to us. Wow it's been a long time since I thought of that. It's like the first meme in Internet history to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Mark PotashVerified account @MarkPotash 4m4 minutes ago That 19-year-old Henri Jokiharju was a favorite of Joel Quenneville but couldn't play for Jeremy Colliton seemed to show just how big the Blackhawks' coaching transition was. Roster mechanics played a part, but it still seems like a strange demise for Jokiharju with the Hawks. 4 replies 4 retweets 16 likes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, TrueBlueGED said: I'd imagine Risto is gone and Bogo will be after this season. Miller and Montour in the top-4 on the right, with Nelson/Jokiharju/Borgen battling for 3rd pair after this year. In the near term, there's enough depth to cover for Bogo not being ready to start the season and Risto being traded. Makes sense. Now the Risto trade for a 2C that makes the other fanbase react like the Hawk fans are reacting to this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, dudacek said: This trade will be acclaimed a Sabre steal by the internet because amateur prospect watchers perceive Nylander a bust and Jokiharju a riser. To scouts it’s a trade of two talented kids of approximately the same age and similar ceilings. Some will remember having Alex ranked in the top 10 three years ago and say it’s not too late to save him from Buffalo’s mishandling of him. He will probably get a shot in the Hawks top 6. Patrick Kane will make him look like Yari Kurri 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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