CallawaySabres Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 I think the Sabres need to finish in the bottom 6 because I'm sure they won't have any Lottery luck.......which will push them down to seven. It's going to be painful waiting for cozens one more year but I guess it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 This really should go here: SEAL Adjusted Scoring and NHL Prospects https://hockey-graphs.com/2016/06/15/seal-adjusted-scoring-and-why-it-matters-for-prospects/ And this which talks about the Reinhart draft. Again, these are tools not answers. Do not look at these and say, oh so clearly this guy thought Bennet should have been drafted first. That is not what is happening. It is just another piece of the drafting puzzle. This is why I think looking at Cohort also matters. So do scouts for the eye test crowd. It all has to come together. http://thats-offside.blogspot.com/2014/06/adjusting-scoring-rate-for-age-in-chl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 The OHL might be a hair above the NCAA in terms of difficulty. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 7:16 AM, CallawaySabres said: I think the Sabres need to finish in the bottom 6 because I'm sure they won't have any Lottery luck.......which will push them down to seven. It's going to be painful waiting for cozens one more year but I guess it is what it is. Top 8 is where its at. Any of those slots you are getting a sure-fire NHL prospect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said: Top 8 is where its at. Any of those slots you are getting a sure-fire NHL prospect Lafrenierre, Byfield, Rossi, Stutzle, Raymond, Holtz, Lundell, Perfetti Thats a really nice, and diverse, group of forward prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 4:41 PM, Curt said: Lafrenierre, Byfield, Rossi, Stutzle, Raymond, Holtz, Lundell, Perfetti Thats a really nice, and diverse, group of forward prospects. I know a lot of people will disagree here but Drydale is also in the equation. Especially, If you believe he can have the type of offensive impact that Hughes and Makar have had. though , I might have him ranked only ahead of Lundell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: I know a lot of people will disagree here but Drydale is also in the equation. Especially, If you believe he can have the type of offensive impact that Hughes and Makar have had. though , I might have him ranked only ahead of Lundell. They can't draft a D man there. Well, Botterill can't. He has not shown an ability to swap d depth for forward depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 He’s not as dynamic of a skater as Makar or Hughes. A top pairing of Dahlin and Drysdale would be impressive, however since Botterill appears incapable of acquiring high end forwards any other way. The draft is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 1:44 PM, Crusader1969 said: Marco Rossi was suspended 5 games earlier this season for this hit... Well that was stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 I watched Ottawa play today, their offense was in sync. Rossi is small but stocky, kind of like Brad Marchand. He is quick and shifty, seems to prefer being a playmaker. I did not see a 200’ game, but the puck was in North Bay’s end for most of the game. I was impressed by Quinn. He got the first two goals of the game, his 50th and 51st of the season. He is on a different line than Rossi but they are on PP1 together. He seems like your classic sniper. He’s got good size for a winger, 6’1 195. He was on PK1 and set up a beautiful short handed goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Seth Jarvis is someone to keep an eye on if he slides into the 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th line wingnutt Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 The Wingnutt Ranking: Tier 1 1 Lafrenière, Alexis Tier 2 2 Byfield, Quinton Tier 3 3 Raymond, Lucas 4 Stutzle, Tim 5 Drysdale, Jamie 6 Holtz, Alexander 7 Perfetti, Cole Tier 4 8 Lundell, Anton 9 Rossi, Marco Tier 5 10 Holloway, Dylan 11 Askarov, Yaroslav 12 Gunler, Noel Tier 6 13 Zary, Connor 14 Mercer, Dawson 15 Amirov, Rodion 16 Poirier, Jérémie 17 Barron, Justin 18 Mysak, Jan 19 Bourque, Mavrik 20 Sanderson, Jake 21 Guhle, Kaiden 22 Lapierre, Hendrix 23 Perreault, Jacob Tier 7 24 Quinn, Jack 25 Smilanic, Ty 26 Nybeck, Zion 27 Ponomaryov, Vasili 28 Foudy, Jean-Luc 29 Andrae, Emil 30 Wallinder, William 31 Hirvonen, Roni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Marco Rossi at 9 can only be because of his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Do we trade out of #1 if we get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, WildCard said: Do we trade out of #1 if we get it? No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, Curt said: No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Here is a guy we have not talked enough about. He is the perfect center for a player like Skinner. His puck handling and skating are lovely. His shot needs work but he is just fun to watch. I give you Tim Stutzle. He is currently playing against men in the Deutsche Eishockey Liga (DEL). His on a good team and has played well. 34 points in 41 games, 27 of them assists. Just another guy to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruff Around The Edges Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Here is a guy we have not talked enough about. He is the perfect center for a player like Skinner. His puck handling and skating are lovely. His shot needs work but he is just fun to watch. I give you Tim Stutzle. He is currently playing against men in the Deutsche Eishockey Liga (DEL). His on a good team and has played well. 34 points in 41 games, 27 of them assists. Just another guy to watch. Agree and would love if the Sabres can get him they may have to get in the Top 3, also I would say Stutzle is the most 'NHL Ready' propsect in the 2020 Draft (Lafrienere aside), given that Tim has played with older players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 10:38 AM, LGR4GM said: This really should go here: SEAL Adjusted Scoring and NHL Prospects https://hockey-graphs.com/2016/06/15/seal-adjusted-scoring-and-why-it-matters-for-prospects/ And this which talks about the Reinhart draft. Again, these are tools not answers. Do not look at these and say, oh so clearly this guy thought Bennet should have been drafted first. That is not what is happening. It is just another piece of the drafting puzzle. This is why I think looking at Cohort also matters. So do scouts for the eye test crowd. It all has to come together. http://thats-offside.blogspot.com/2014/06/adjusting-scoring-rate-for-age-in-chl.html Statisticians showed a long-time back strong correlations that players who are a few months from whatever the age-cutoff is for a sports league/school system (Jan 1 or mid-summer) perform better overall than players slightly younger. It was always thought due to their slight advantage of physical maturity led to them getting more coach attention than the others. It's not surprising to think that 0.6 years of age can make a difference. That leads one to consider: does the NHL, OHL, NCAA, and the kids local youth organization use the same cut-off dates or not? If the coaching attention difference is the root-cause, then varying start-dates will add noise to the metric. I have a hard time believing the OHL is 'harder' than the NCAA. Kids in the OHL are sheltered from men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Here is a guy we have not talked enough about. He is the perfect center for a player like Skinner. His puck handling and skating are lovely. His shot needs work but he is just fun to watch. I give you Tim Stutzle. He is currently playing against men in the Deutsche Eishockey Liga (DEL). His on a good team and has played well. 34 points in 41 games, 27 of them assists. Just another guy to watch. Speaking of DEL they just cancelled the remainder of their season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, triumph_communes said: I have a hard time believing the OHL is 'harder' than the NCAA. Kids in the OHL are sheltered from men. I think your mileage may vary on this from player to player. I think that, in general, the CHL leagues may have more skilled players than NCAA D1, however, the players are not as physically mature. Because of this, the CHL leagues may be “harder” for some players while the NCAA may be “harder” for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 CHL rookies are 16, playing against 17-20 year olds. NCAA freshman are 18 playing against 19-23 year olds. There are challenges in both leagues from a physical maturity standpoint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 The fact that this was started July of 2019 is hilariously depressing. @Randall Flagg I'm glad I didn't bet you on Botterill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted March 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, WildCard said: The fact that this was started July of 2019 is hilariously depressing. @Randall Flagg I'm glad I didn't bet you on Botterill Hey I started it after Botts picked a D with 2nd pick in the first knowing Sabres needed scoring and guys were there to be had... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) On 3/9/2020 at 11:30 AM, LGR4GM said: Marco Rossi at 9 can only be because of his size. No way Rossi could slip to 9th. Not happening. ? I thought you said size doesn't matter,.....in his case. Edited March 13, 2020 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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