TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’ve been banging this drum for a minute. Give me Stastny. Separately... I don’t think anybody offer sheets Marner. They’ll talk to teams but in the end there isn’t really a point. You’ll piss off the Leafs (and probably other wimpy GMs) and you’ll either have to pay four first round picks or you’re going to have to slightly overpay Marner to pry him away. The Leafs probably match anything short of $12 mill. Anything above it is too much. This reasoning is exactly why offer sheets don’t happen. I think it's flawed, but it's definitely real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, TrueBlueGED said: Because Marner is way better than any player you're trading for. I don't know about way better. And at some point you have to consider what his cost is, financially and asset wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, WildCard said: I don't know about way better. And at some point you have to consider what his cost is, financially and asset wise How many teams are trading away a 90-point player entering his prime for two 1sts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, TrueBlueGED said: How many teams are trading away a 90-point player entering his prime for two 1sts? You mean who would do that besides the Otters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, TrueBlueGED said: How many teams are trading away a 90-point player entering his prime for two 1sts? I'm not saying 90, I'm saying 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, WildCard said: I'm not saying 90, I'm saying 70 All else equal, a 20 point gap in production is huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, TrueBlueGED said: All else equal, a 20 point gap in production is huge But so is $12M + four 1st rounders vs $8M + two 1st rounders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, WildCard said: But so is $12M + four 1st rounders vs $8M + two 1st rounders Would you pay $4M and two 1sts to upgrade from Sam to Jack? I sure would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 32 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’ve been banging this drum for a minute. Give me Stastny. Separately... I don’t think anybody offer sheets Marner. They’ll talk to teams but in the end there isn’t really a point. You’ll piss off the Leafs (and probably other wimpy GMs) and you’ll either have to pay four first round picks or you’re going to have to slightly overpay Marner to pry him away. The Leafs probably match anything short of $12 mill. Anything above it is too much. But signing him to $12 and forcing the leafs to match is just right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Would you pay $4M and two 1sts to upgrade from Sam to Jack? I sure would. Well that's on top of the $8M Sam's base salary would already have to have been, and the 2 first rounders you already spent on acquiring him $12M + four firsts = 1 Sam Reinhart at 70 points + 3 other 1st round picks, which can translate to roster players in trades or just drafting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Imagine how far that move would escalate the cross border rivalry? I still ***** hate Edmonton for the vanek offer sheet. A move like that could revive the war of 1812. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, WildCard said: Well that's on top of the $8M Sam's base salary would already have to have been, and the 2 first rounders you already spent on acquiring him $12M + four firsts = 1 Sam Reinhart at 70 points + 3 other 1st round picks, which can translate to roster players in trades or just drafting them. In 4 years maybe. It all depends on timeline. For a team starting a fresh rebuild, an offer sheet of this magnitude doesn't make a ton of sense. But for a team that already has a foundation in place? Hell yea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Signing Myers to that deal and trading a 1st for JT Miller makes me think that Benning is under a make the playoffs or else directive from ownership. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: In 4 years maybe. It all depends on timeline. For a team starting a fresh rebuild, an offer sheet of this magnitude doesn't make a ton of sense. But for a team that already has a foundation in place? Hell yea. If you already have your foundation in piece you don't need a Marner though, you need 3-4 roster guys to roll more than one line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Signing Myers to that deal and trading a 1st for JT Miller makes me think that Benning is under a make the playoffs or else directive from ownership. It’s all they’re talking about out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, WildCard said: If you already have your foundation in piece you don't need a Marner though, you need 3-4 roster guys to roll more than one line Agree to disagree. I think a team can always use a 90-point player. It's the same reason the Leafs are going to keep him even though they also have Tavares, Matthews, and Nylander up front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 How much $$$ will have Myers made in his career if he signs that? Wonder where he would rank in all-time paid defensemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hoss Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoss said: That’s in the ballpark of what I’d pay him if I’m being honest. Like, if I’m entering through the ticket gates near home plate and this contract is in the last seat in the left field bleachers with an obstructed view and broken arm rests. Wow, funny post Hoss. Thanks, Hoss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, WildCard said: Strange situation...He is not so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 Duchene, Dzingel, Anders Lee...What about some of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 hours ago, WildCard said: It was protected, no? They deferred it from the 2018 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: It was protected, no? They deferred it from the 2018 draft. It was protected in that they had the decision to defer. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I think normal lottery protection isn’t deferrable like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, #freejame said: It was protected in that they had the decision to defer. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I think normal lottery protection isn’t deferrable like that. Yea, most (maybe all) other lottery protection that has been put in is automatic, not discretionary. Also @Thorny way to ruin a most excellent joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 24, 2019 Report Share Posted June 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Yea, most (maybe all) other lottery protection that has been put in is automatic, not discretionary. Also @Thorny way to ruin a most excellent joke! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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