dudacek Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: @dudacek love the analysis, disagree on the conclusion. Miller replacing Baloo is a huge upgrade. Miller is top 4 on most teams and a huge upgrade to PP2. Baloo is a marginal NHL D. Montour is also a huge upgrade on Bogo, both speed, O and puck moving. He is also an upgrade defensively. These two moves alone would be a big step forward. Olofsson and MoJo are also huge step forward. MoJo is 20 pts better then Pominville and Olofsson 25 goal potential adds another dimension which we didn’t have last year and another legit top 6 player. Yesterday, our depth team competed well with a legit version of the Pens and even outskated them most of the game. This team is close to being a playoff contender. Any growth from Tage and Mitts and decent play from Vesey could give us 3 solid scoring lines and a legit playoff opportunity. Goaltending is still suspect and could be the Achilles heal, but Ullmark and Hutton have showed enough good play that if the D improves as I suspect this will be much less of an issue then last year. Do I ever hope you’re right. 2 hours ago, Thorny said: Hoping it's Sheary in for Sobotka, and he'll be waived. Rodrigues replaces Lazar, Lazar waived. Elie, Asplund, Wilson sent down too, Okposo as the 13th man. - - - Olofsson - Eichel - Reinhart Skinner - Johansson - Sheary Vesey - Mittelstadt - Rodrigues Girgensons - Larsson - Thompson (Okposo) Dahlin - Miller McCabe - Ristolainen Scandella - Jokiharju (Gilmour, Nelson) I think your Sobotka thinking is wishful thinking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Good post, agree with most up until that ^ line at the end. That's definitely possible, but if we are in the playoff race, I think it's more likely because Jack REALLY goes off, and takes a MacKinnon like step, Reinhart continues the path to becoming Mark Stone I now think he might be on, and Dahlin takes the jump expected of a player of his talents. Oh, and the goalies rebound. I would say that if any of those things happen, the coaching staff will get a big chunk of credit, deserved or not. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, dudacek said: I would say that if any of those things happen, the coaching staff will get a big chunk of credit, deserved or not. ? Definitely. Similar in ways to how Binnington supposedly "saved" the Blues. Lots of correlation there combined with some causation. Krueger's impact would be a little more difficult to siphon out, though. Edited September 30, 2019 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) Now that the roster looks pretty set, this is what I'd go with: Skinner-Eichel-Rodrigues Olofsson-Johansson-Reinhart Vesey-Mittelstadt-Sheary Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo Dahlin-Miller McCabe-Jokiharju Gilmour-Ristolainen I expect things to look considerably different from what I'd do. Edited September 30, 2019 by TrueBlueGED 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Now that the roster looks pretty set, this is what I'd go with: Skinner-Eichel-Rodrigues Olofsson-Johansson-Reinhart Vesey-Mittelstadt-Sheary Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo Dahlin-Miller McCabe-Jokiharju Gilmour-Ristolainen I expect things in the to look considerably different from what I'd do. Flip Skinner and Olofsson, Reinhart and Rodrigues, and Ristolainen and Jokiharju and you have the version out of these presumably healthy 22 that I'd run with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Now that the roster looks pretty set, this is what I'd go with: Skinner-Eichel-Rodrigues Olofsson-Johansson-Reinhart Vesey-Mittelstadt-Sheary Girgensons-Larsson-Okposo Dahlin-Miller McCabe-Jokiharju Gilmour-Ristolainen I expect things to look considerably different from what I'd do. This is what I'd do - and I'm imagining a Risto trade for a RW to replace Rodrigues, Rodrigues in for Sheary, and Sheary just gone somewhere while KO gets his spot taken by Lazar or something 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Randall Flagg said: This is what I'd do - and I'm imagining a Risto trade for a RW to replace Rodrigues, Rodrigues in for Sheary, and Sheary just gone somewhere while KO gets his spot taken by Lazar or something This is where I think things are heading, it just needs to shake out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: This is where I think things are heading, it just needs to shake out. That'd be great, but there's really nothing indicating things are heading in this direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Who really thinks Jack and Jeff start game one together? Or that Risto isn’t in the top 4? To me, Ralph has shown us where he is going. The only questions are whether Sheary plugs in with Mojo or Casey, which one of ERod Sobotka or Okposo sits if Sheary draws in, and will Gilmour get the start over Joki despite being a leftie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WildCard Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: November it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 LTIR Bogo and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Brawndo said: LTIR Bogo and move on Man, it would be great if this ended up being an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 This might be a the method to Botterill’s Madness. I am paraphrasing and am probably misinterpreted but Jeff Marek was discussing yesterday on Hockey Central that teams want to keep the maximum amount of money and stay close to cap to maximize the amount of money you can put on LTIR. This would allow for more moves to be made after the team is cap compliant at 5pm Maybe Taro can weigh in on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Brawndo said: This might be a the method to Botterill’s Madness. I am paraphrasing and am probably misinterpreted but Jeff Marek was discussing yesterday on Hockey Central that teams want to keep the maximum amount of money and stay close to cap to maximize the amount of money you can put on LTIR. This would allow for more moves to be made after the team is cap compliant at 5pm Maybe Taro can weigh in on this. I think this came up in another thread. Wish I could remember which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 You don't get LTIR cap credit until you exceed the cap was my understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 This about sums up how I feel going into this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, darksabre said: Man, it would be great if this ended up being an option. What a terrible thing to say. I hope he heals completely and can continue his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, pi2000 said: What a terrible thing to say. I hope he heals completely and can continue his career anywhere else. ftfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, pi2000 said: What a terrible thing to say. I hope he heals completely and can continue his career. Me too. Next year. On another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Brawndo said: This might be a the method to Botterill’s Madness. I am paraphrasing and am probably misinterpreted but Jeff Marek was discussing yesterday on Hockey Central that teams want to keep the maximum amount of money and stay close to cap to maximize the amount of money you can put on LTIR. This would allow for more moves to be made after the team is cap compliant at 5pm Maybe Taro can weigh in on this. I've covered this in one of the other threads, but Readers Digest version is: when you use BF-LTIR whatever you salary cap payroll is (as opposed to actual payroll) becomes effectively your team's salary cap. So, if the cap were $82MM and your payroll was at $80MM prior to LTIRing a $5MM player, you could bring in replacement player(s) having up to $3MM in salary, not the full $5MM because you don't get cap relief for salary that doesn't take you over the cap (and the 1st $2MM got you to the cap, it was the next $3MM that takes the team over.) As long as the team keeps a player (or players - hello Hunwick) on LTIR, that effective cap at the time you started using LTIR remains your cap. The Sabres are currently just under $1.6MM over the cap. Waiving Jokiharju and Olofsson would put them ~$200k under the cap. So, if Bogosian & Hunwick go on LTIR, the Sabres would effectively have ~$200k more dead cap than just Hodgson 's dead cap. Were they to put those guys on LTIR with, oh, say Sobotka and his ~$3MM contract in Ra-cha-cha then they'd effectively have just about $3MM extra in dead cap the entire season due to the expectation that Hunwick will be on IR all year. Pretty sure stuff is set up that way to both limit abuse of LTIR and to minimize escrow the players forfeit at the end of the year as Hunwick 's and Bogosian 's actual salaries paid while on IR count against the players' share. And there are nuances to all this (due to team cap getting calculated each day) but that gives a reasonable overview of the mechanics. Edited October 1, 2019 by Taro T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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darksabre Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: So much roster juggling. Cap stuff is going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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