WildCard Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, LGR4GM said: Alright, I will trade Reinhart straight up for Quinton Byfield. You could honestly start just making up names at this point and I wouldn't call you on it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Scottysabres said: Apple's and oranges. As was stated early on, shake up trades, change of scenery trades sometimes work. But at this point I don't want to see JBot make an "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" trade while we still have real needs. And just curious.... why did you use an apostrophe in Apple's but not oranges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogelthorpe Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, WildCard said: According to everyone. +/- is like saying the world is flat Did fine for the first 100 years of hockey until people decided to go math professors for hockey advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: You could honestly start just making up names at this point and I wouldn't call you on it lol imagine if you will, a 6'4" center who can skate, score, loves physicality and is only 17. He is currently 4th in the OHL for points and 7th in PPG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scottysabres said: A change needs to be made, and if Botterill is having a difficult time finding a partner for top 6, he should still look to address the bottom 6. I see no compelling reason why. Edited November 22, 2019 by Doohickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said: Did fine for the first 100 years of hockey until people decided to go math professors for hockey advice. So yeah, same thing as thinking the Earth is flat Edited November 22, 2019 by WildCard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Doohickie said: But at this point I don't want to see JBot make an "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" trade while we still have real needs. And just curious.... why did you use an apostrophe in Apple's but not oranges? The apples possess the oranges. It's a dominance thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogelthorpe Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, Curt said: Couple points: 1) +/- is really a mix between a team stat and individual player stat. For any player it’s going to be heavily influenced by the team they play on. 2) +/- is not a defensive stat any more than it is an offensive stat. 3) If you take the view that Reinhart is not defensively responsible because his +/- is negative, then you are also taking the view that Buffalo has had zero defensively responsible players over the last few years, because they all have negative +/-. This includes even ROR. Ok, ROR sucked when he was here just like the rest of the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said: Ok, ROR sucked when he was here just like the rest of the team Not true. Edited November 22, 2019 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 after it’s discovered +/- doesn’t give an accurate picture. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Remember when we had the discussion of why ROR should be traded? It amounted to the last few years the team sucked. We can't keep subtracting talent and expecting to be better. At this point, Skinner, Eichel, Reinhart, Dahlin, and Jokiharju I won't say you're wrong, but I think it's a bit early to call Joker part of the core. But he's doing well in his audition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Forecheck Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Alright, I will trade Reinhart straight up for Quinton Byfield. Cute. Personally I'd trade Reinhart for a lot of other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogelthorpe Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zamboni said: after it’s discovered +/- doesn’t give an accurate picture. At all. Lol. Young kid who prolly never played a sport in his life but is decent at math thinks he knows everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Forecheck Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said: Ok, ROR sucked when he was here just like the rest of the team That was a bad trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Torpedo Forecheck said: Cute. Personally I'd trade Reinhart for a lot of other things. Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogelthorpe Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Torpedo Forecheck said: That was a bad trade I agree but he was bad for the team and the locker room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Curt said: So, just a note on this guy Jankowski. Zeros this season, but the last 2 seasons he had 17 and 14 goals, playing about 13 mins. This includes just 2 PP goals and 7 SH goals. I might fall for that if we hadn't acquired Vesey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Forecheck Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Such as? Who's available? I'm not giving him away, but I'd have to think there is a package out there somewhere. I mean its not like he a superstar, I'd explore it though. 4 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said: I agree but he was bad for the team and the locker room Yeah I wasn't around then, but that was reported. Personally, I found it surprising, I coached against Ryan and he was always a high character guy. Edited November 22, 2019 by Torpedo Forecheck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Torpedo Forecheck said: Who's available? I'm not giving away, but I'd have to think there is a package out there somewhere. I mean its not like he a superstar Idk, name players that you would trade him for available or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said: I agree but he was bad for the team and the locker room Ah, so you've bought into the narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: It doesn't fix the engine. You are going into the parts store with a rod through the block asking the guy about an oil change. You do realize there is more wrong with car than the engine. The brakes need replacing, the fuel tank has a hole in it, both tail lights are out, the alternator is shot, the radiator needs a flush and the transmission is shot. 22 minutes ago, Doohickie said: But at this point I don't want to see JBot make an "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" trade while we still have real needs. And just curious.... why did you use an apostrophe in Apple's but not oranges? I see your point. And not sure, force of habit I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: You do realize there is more wrong with car than the engine. The brakes need replacing, the fuel tank has a hole in it, both tail lights are out, the alternator is shot, the radiator needs a flush and the transmission is shot. I see your point. And not sure, force of habit I guess. I realize that without an offensive engine it doesn't matter if you paint the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogelthorpe Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Ah, so you've bought into the narrative. Yes I have bought into the narrative that this organization is so inept that it can alienate its players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said: Lol. Young kid who prolly never played a sport in his life but is decent at math thinks he knows everything You certainly aren’t describing me ? anyway ... I would be behind trading Olofsson and ERod if it meant an upgrade. Even slightly. But I think a little more fuel to that fire is what’s needed to grab someone of worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 22, 2019 Report Share Posted November 22, 2019 Let's chill out a bit in here please. TTBOMK, no one here is responsible for the Sabres stinking yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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