Brawndo Posted June 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) Per LeBrun the Sabres have inquired about Joonas Donskoi They have actually shown real interest along with Edmonton, Colorado. Edited June 26, 2019 by Brawndo 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Per LeBrun the Sabres have inquired about Joonas Donskoi They have actually shown real interest along with Edmonton, Colorado. Would be a good add if they can land him. Would be top 6 winger today & would fit in well on 3rd line when we finally see young wingers step up into earning top 6 roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Donskoi would be a nice addition to the middle six. Would prefer they go after Dzingel and Zuccarello. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Donskoi is my favorite free agent out there. Decent shot but I think he still can improve. Think he was under used in SJ because of how loaded they are. He’s a hard working forward who’s desperate for a bigger role. Very good defensively and lightning fast. Makes me happy to see us connected with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 I want to get excited about a RW addition if it so comes to pass, so I hope the 2C add happens first so I don't have lingering worry over that (more important) addition clouding the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Donskoi would be a nice addition to the middle six. Would prefer they go after Dzingel and Zuccarello. I want Donskoi and Dzingel. Not all that interested in Zucc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Donskoi would be a nice addition to the middle six. Would prefer they go after Dzingel and Zuccarello. 1 minute ago, Briere48 said: Donskoi is my favorite free agent out there. Decent shot but I think he still can improve. Think he was under used in SJ because of how loaded they are. He’s a hard working forward who’s desperate for a bigger role. Very good defensively and lightning fast. Makes me happy to see us connected with him. I’d takeJoonas because he is cheaper and can be effective in multiple roles. Zuc will cost too much. Dzingel is a 30 point guy whose numbers got artificially inflated last year, and doesn’t have the defensive skills Donskoi brings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Dzingel is a centre, though, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, dudacek said: Dzingel is a 30 point guy whose numbers got artificially inflated last year, and doesn’t have the defensive skills Donskoi brings. 32-41-56 are his point totals in 3 full seasons. He is not a 30 point guy 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: Dzingel is a centre, though, no? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: 32-41-56 are his point totals in 3 full seasons. He is not a 30 point guy He was a healthy scratch for the Sharks as recently as last season. Not interested in Donskoi at what it will likely cost to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, Lanny said: He was a healthy scratch for the Sharks as recently as last season. Not interested in Donskoi at what it will likely cost to get him. That post was about Dzingel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Lanny said: He was a healthy scratch for the Sharks as recently as last season. Not interested in Donskoi at what it will likely cost to get him. I'm talking about Dzingel Just now, Hoss said: That post was about Dzingel. Yes, thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: 32-41-56 are his point totals in 3 full seasons. He is not a 30 point guy Yes Dzingel has played a lot of wing.I worry his numbers last year were artificially bolstered by his role and the situation in Ottawa. I do love his speed, but it would be a mistake to bring him in thinking he will fix our 2nd line centre woes and handing him a $25 million deal would be a mistake. Most UFA contracts are mistakes.Thats why if we sign one, I’d rather not shop in the pricey section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, dudacek said: Dzingel has played a lot of wing.I worry his numbers last year were artificially bolstered by his role and the situation in Ottawa. I do love his speed, but it would be a mistake to bring him in thinking he will fix our 2nd line centre woes and handing him a $25 million deal would be a mistake. Most UFA contracts are mistakes.Thats why if we sign one, I’d rather not shop in the pricey section. I mean I'd love to take him on as a winger too honestly, but I see what you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, dudacek said: Dzingel has played a lot of wing.I worry his numbers last year were artificially bolstered by his role and the situation in Ottawa. I do love his speed, but it would be a mistake to bring him in thinking he will fix our 2nd line centre woes and handing him a $25 million deal would be a mistake. Most UFA contracts are mistakes.Thats why if we sign one, I’d rather not shop in the pricey section. I hope people don't jump on me when I post this a thousand times when our 2C offseason move is trading for Cody Eakin or Erik Haula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I hope people don't jump on me when I post this a thousand times when our 2C offseason move is trading for Cody Eakin or Erik Haula I'm definitely afraid that Botterill's 2C solution will be a 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dudacek said: Dzingel has played a lot of wing.I worry his numbers last year were artificially bolstered by his role and the situation in Ottawa. I do love his speed, but it would be a mistake to bring him in thinking he will fix our 2nd line centre woes and handing him a $25 million deal would be a mistake. Most UFA contracts are mistakes.Thats why if we sign one, I’d rather not shop in the pricey section. He had 56 points last year. He might, and he might be one of the better options. Edited June 26, 2019 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, TrueBlueGED said: I'm definitely afraid that Botterill's 2C solution will be a 3C. Although that would be an improvement on last year's attempt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, Randall Flagg said: Although that would be an improvement on last year's attempt Right: a College-C, an No-C, and a quit-the-league-C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I hope people don't jump on me when I post this a thousand times when our 2C offseason move is trading for Cody Eakin or Erik Haula Here’s why I’d rather have Eakin or Haula than Dzingel: they are decent enough in their own zone to match up against Stamkos or Tavares or Trochek where Dzingel would be swallowed whole. Adding Dzingel or someone like him essentially gives Ralphie two Casey Mittlestadts. A real 3C and no 2c is better than having neither. Having Eichel, Eakin and Larry gives us more of a fighting chance. Edited June 26, 2019 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, dudacek said: Here’s why I’d rather have Eakin or Haula than Dzingel: they are decent enough in their own zone to match up against Stamkos or Tavares or Trochek where Dzingel would be swallowed whole. Adding Dzingel or someone like him essentially gives Ralphie two Casey Mittlestadts. Having Eichel, Eakin and Larry gives us more of a fighting chance. That's what Larsson is for though. Unless you're talking about those guys as being a second line matching up against our second line centered hypothetically by Dzingel, to which I would say use your 3rd line or something. Also, I don't want to be the team that plays afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Although that would be an improvement on last year's attempt I hate you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: I'm definitely afraid that Botterill's 2C solution will be a 3C. (Late to the party, but) it beats trying 4 different 4C's at 2C. Baby steps ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: Here’s why I’d rather have Eakin or Haula than Dzingel: they are decent enough in their own zone to match up against Stamkos or Tavares or Trochek where Dzingel would be swallowed whole. Adding Dzingel or someone like him essentially gives Ralphie two Casey Mittlestadts. A real 3C and no 2c is better than having neither. Having Eichel, Eakin and Larry gives us more of a fighting chance. Dzingel isn't capable of being a 2c or a "real" 3C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: Here’s why I’d rather have Eakin or Haula than Dzingel: they are decent enough in their own zone to match up against Stamkos or Tavares or Trochek where Dzingel would be swallowed whole. Adding Dzingel or someone like him essentially gives Ralphie two Casey Mittlestadts. Having Eichel, Eakin and Larry gives us more of a fighting chance. I'd prefer Haula, then Dzingel, then Eakin. My impression is that Eakin doesn't play very good hockey. I'm just going to be really upset if we don't Fix, with a capital f, the 2C position for at least this coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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