IKnowPhysics Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Team needs wins, goalie coach chances are incidental. Yeah, the cap has to be managed, but team needs wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, IKnowPhysics said: Team needs wins, goalie coach chances are incidental. Yeah, the cap has to be managed, but team needs wins. idk what this means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 It means I couldn't give a ***** if the goaltending coach gets a chance to fix anything as long as we win and we're not somehow locked into salary cap hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, IKnowPhysics said: It means I couldn't give a ***** if the goaltending coach gets a chance to fix anything as long as we win and we're not somehow locked into salary cap hell. I think adding a 3rd goalie is a mistake unless they are dirt cheap, like burying them takes all their salary away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 Thanks for the cameo guys ? Do we think the GT coach will make a huge difference, or is it all in thr GT ceiling of abilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: I think adding a 3rd goalie is a mistake unless they are dirt cheap, like burying them takes all their salary away. Agreed. If UPL is healthy he gets the playing time in Roch right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 13, 2019 Report Share Posted June 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Derrico said: Agreed. If UPL is healthy he gets the playing time in Roch right? one would hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 19 hours ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: Thanks for the cameo guys ? Do we think the GT coach will make a huge difference, or is it all in thr GT ceiling of abilities? I think the GT coach will make a big difference. It's not as much about ceiling of abilities but a bad coach can encourage the wrong behaviors in a goaltender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) I think people don't fully understand what goalie coaches do sometimes. It's not only working with the goalies on technical aspects of their game. They help coordinate between goalie and defense about how to play certain situations. They help the team to see tendencies in how the opposition's goalies/defense play certain situations. They help to keep the goaltenders in the right frame of mind, dealing with the very unique mental stresses of the position. There is a lot more there than giving tips on how to make a save. The goaltender is the single most important player on any team. I believe that the coach you bring in to be an expert in that position can make a big difference to the team. Bales is an important hire. Edited June 14, 2019 by Curtisp5286 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Sabres confirm Bales and Steve Smith and add Don Granato as an assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: Sabres confirm Bales and Steve Smith and add Don Granato as an assistant. What's Granato do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: What's Granato do? Assuming the Davis Payne role. Just looking him up. Looks like his biggest claim to fame is running the US national development program. WIKI: Don Granato (born August 11, 1967) is an American former ice hockey player and former assistant coach with the Chicago Blackhawks. Granato was previously head coach of the USA Hockey National Team Development Program and the Worcester IceCats and Chicago Wolves of the AHL. He was also head coach of the Columbus Chill and Peoria Rivermen of the East Coast Hockey League (with whom he won the Kelly Cup as a coach in 2000). He also coached the Green Bay Gamblers and Wisconsin Capitols of the United States Hockey League. He most recently was an associate coach with the Wisconsin Badgers men's hockey team. During the 2000–01 AHL season, Granato won the Louis A. R. Pieri Memorial Award as the outstanding coach of the AHL. In March, Granato assumed an assistant coaching position under his brother, Tony, with the Wisconsin Badgers men's ice hockey team.[1] On June 15, he became an assistant coach, along with Ulf Samuelsson, under Joel Quenneville of the NHL's Chicago Blackhawks.[2] He is also the brother of Cammi and Tony, and the brother-in-law of Ray Ferraro. Edited June 14, 2019 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: Assuming the Davis Payne role. Just looking him up. What did Payne run? Sorry, I wasn't familiar with our assistants and what they did at all. Just trying to see where the Sabres are looking for upgrades. I know Smith was a defensive guy right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Payne was Housley's right-hand. He handled the forwards and I think ran the PP. He was the bald guy with the whiteboard during those late-game timeouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, dudacek said: Assuming the Davis Payne role. Just looking him up. Looks like his biggest claim to fame is running the US national development program. WIKI: Don Granato (born August 11, 1967) is an American former ice hockey player and former assistant coach with the Chicago Blackhawks. Granato was previously head coach of the USA Hockey National Team Development Program and the Worcester IceCats and Chicago Wolves of the AHL. He was also head coach of the Columbus Chill and Peoria Rivermen of the East Coast Hockey League (with whom he won the Kelly Cup as a coach in 2000). He also coached the Green Bay Gamblers and Wisconsin Capitols of the United States Hockey League. He most recently was an associate coach with the Wisconsin Badgers men's hockey team. During the 2000–01 AHL season, Granato won the Louis A. R. Pieri Memorial Award as the outstanding coach of the AHL. In March, Granato assumed an assistant coaching position under his brother, Tony, with the Wisconsin Badgers men's ice hockey team.[1] On June 15, he became an assistant coach, along with Ulf Samuelsson, under Joel Quenneville of the NHL's Chicago Blackhawks.[2] He is also the brother of Cammi and Tony, and the brother-in-law of Ray Ferraro. If he coached the Badgers he knows and heavily scouted Caufield who is going to Wisconsin. EDIT: I see that Granato was with Chicago the last 2 years not Wisconsin. Edited June 14, 2019 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Looks like he will have great insight on all the young americans. More on his USDP role: https://usahockeymagazine.com/article/2015-04/his-own-man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Here's the announcement https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/buffalo-sabres-announce-coaching-staff/c-307851196?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Remember Imlach Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Just wondering: why were Bales and Granato available and willing to come to Buffalo? They were both assistants on other NHL teams (= a good thing, not a dig) so it's not clear this is a promotion for either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Granato was a Quenville hire who stayed on for continuity reasons, but apparently didn’t fit with Colliton long-term. “Mutual decision” departure was the official story. Bales was under contract and resigned to come here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, I Remember Imlach said: Just wondering: why were Bales and Granato available and willing to come to Buffalo? They were both assistants on other NHL teams (= a good thing, not a dig) so it's not clear this is a promotion for either one. RK does have a good reputation amongst those who have worked with him which helps and they do have some talent. Apparently Bales Contract was up per Don Waddell and he agreed to a deal with Buffalo. Granato actually coached quite a few Players in the Organization Add Sean Malone to this list as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 That Granato hire looks more interesting now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 Has Granato coached any of the NTDP prospects at the top of this year's draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Has Granato coached any of the NTDP prospects at the top of this year's draft? He has been with Chicago the past two years, so my guess would be no. But as mentioned up thread he would have good intelligence from his brother on Caufield as well as Weissbach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 14, 2019 Report Share Posted June 14, 2019 More emphasis on their chosen draft stategy with the Granato hire. Additionally, Ward was not retained and was released with the other coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 From my additional reading, I don’t see Granato talked up as an offensive guy (or a tactical wiz) and Bales is listed simply as assistant coach, not goalie coach (Waddell was quoted as saying he had a window in his contract to pursue full-time employment and the Sabres asked permission to talk to him.) So I’m going to remain on the fence as to who will do what under Krueger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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