bunomatic Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 They are lost. Tom Waites said it best and it pretty well sums up the state of this franchise. “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, bunomatic said: They are lost. Tom Waites said it best and it pretty well sums up the state of this franchise. “I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.” Totally agree but I have to point out the quote is older. W.C.Fields and Dorothy Parker both used it before Waits. But ya, the franchise is a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted June 17, 2020 Report Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Totally agree but I have to point out the quote is older. W.C.Fields and Dorothy Parker both used it before Waits. But ya, the franchise is a disaster. Thanks. Didn’t know that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gabrielor Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 The Hall signing, and Adams specifically sighting Beane as an influence to GMing has me hopeful, and requesting a stay of execution on the Pegulas. I do think they were given horseshit advice by hirings tied to Hockey Canada, which is why all the moves since hasn't involved people from them. They were very late to the party on how inept Botterill was, but they did fire him before he did anything more serious than an ELC this offseason, and only really lost Pilut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, Gabrielor said: The Hall signing, and Adams specifically sighting Beane as an influence to GMing has me hopeful, and requesting a stay of execution on the Pegulas. I do think they were given horseshit advice by hirings tied to Hockey Canada, which is why all the moves since hasn't involved people from them. They were very late to the party on how inept Botterill was, but they did fire him before he did anything more serious than an ELC this offseason, and only really lost Pilut. So freaking glad that Botterill did not get a chance to screw up this fantastic opportunity the flat cap provided. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, dudacek said: So freaking glad that Botterill did not get a chance to screw up this fantastic opportunity the flat cap provided. I think you mean you are glad JB didn’t take the chance. It’s been clearly stated that this was his decision to not do what was asked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, SDS said: I think you mean you are glad JB didn’t take the chance. It’s been clearly stated that this was his decision to not do what was asked. Two wrongs make a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 From the Athletic regarding Tom Dundon 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Brawndo said: From the Athletic regarding Tom Dundon I've long felt that the main difference between Dundon and the Pegulas is Eric Tulsky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, dudacek said: I've long felt that the main difference between Dundon and the Pegulas is Eric Tulsky. Dundon is smart enough to ask His Employees to show their work and ultimately listen to their recommendations. Nybeck’s Analytics are really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Dundon is smart enough to ask His Employees to show their work and ultimately listen to their recommendations. Yeah, I meant that he's just as hands-on as they are, but (unlike Botterill) Tulsky has been smart enough and persuasive enough to keep him on the right path. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Separately, but related, do the Pegulas love Zemgus? I mean I think Ralph likes him, and he seems like an Adams kinda guy, but that contract is such an anomaly (league-wide and in Buffalo) it makes me wonder if it was a command performance from the owner to get him signed. Edited October 14, 2020 by dudacek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, dudacek said: Separately, but related, do the Pegulas love Zemgus? I mean I think Ralph likes him, and he seems like an Adams kinda guy, but that contract is such an anomaly (league-wide and in Buffalo) it makes me wonder if it was a command performance from the owner to get him signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 So the only hope for those Sabre Fans who want to move on from Risto is that He does this when the Sabres bring up a contract extension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 hours ago, dudacek said: Separately, but related, do the Pegulas love Zemgus? I mean I think Ralph likes him, and he seems like an Adams kinda guy, but that contract is such an anomaly (league-wide and in Buffalo) it makes me wonder if it was a command performance from the owner to get him signed. Several things. 1. I think it is partly a reward for being willing to stay. 2. They were trying to signal Larry what he could get if he stayed. (IMHO, this was the biggest point.) 3. He was on pace for about 14-11-25 from an essentially defence-only deployment. 4. His teammates apparently like him. 5. He and Kyle are good examples of embracing a role you have rather than the one you wanted and were drafted for. Is it too much? I think so, but I think all of the above helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: 2. They were trying to signal Larry what he could get if he stayed. (IMHO, this was the biggest point.) I thought this as well when I assumed they wanted to keep Larry, but Larry didn't want to keep them. But Larry's brother's Tweet, along with the comments Larry made about Buffalo not being too enthusiastic towards him, and Ralph's comments about Eakin being targetted have made me think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Just a wee update here that the Pegulas have filed for federal trademarks for use of the phrase "Bills Mafia." They did not just file for a trademark on a particular stylized depiction of those words (although they applied for at least one specific design mark as well), but they filed for a trademark on the words themselves, a so-called "word mark." That phrase belongs to the people. No bueno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Just a wee update here that the Pegulas have filed for federal trademarks for use of the phrase "Bills Mafia." They did not just file for a trademark on a particular stylized depiction of those words (although they applied for at least one specific design mark as well), but they filed for a trademark on the words themselves, a so-called "word mark." That phrase belongs to the people. No bueno. Good. Maybe they could then squash it so we never have to hear it again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted October 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, SwampD said: Good. Maybe they could then squash it so we never have to hear it again. Correct. It is offensive to many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Listen, you mugs. Like it or not, it’s a phrase that is hugely popular with Bills nation. And it grew organically out of fan activity. Now the Pegulas want to own and monetize it. It’s sorta gross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 I get the "Bills Mafia" came about organically (from Del Reid mainly) but "Bills" is owned by the Pegulas and the NFL. If you don't defend your trademark you lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said: Just a wee update here that the Pegulas have filed for federal trademarks for use of the phrase "Bills Mafia." They did not just file for a trademark on a particular stylized depiction of those words (although they applied for at least one specific design mark as well), but they filed for a trademark on the words themselves, a so-called "word mark." That phrase belongs to the people. No bueno. Who is going to oppose it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I get the "Bills Mafia" came about organically (from Del Reid mainly) but "Bills" is owned by the Pegulas and the NFL. If you don't defend your trademark you lose it. Protecting your trademarks is always a valid concern. I question whether #BillsMafia presented any sort of threat to the Bills mark. I also know that there are other ways to go about protecting your marks. Moreover, they’re asking for the whole kit and kaboodle — a straight “word mark.” They’d own the phrase, in any style, color scheme, etc. 5 minutes ago, Eleven said: Who is going to oppose it? No idea. My concerns aren’t really legal anyway. It just seems like a tone dead cash grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted October 16, 2020 Report Share Posted October 16, 2020 Interesting. So, Del apparently steers clear of using the Bills mark in his products. They may well be entitled to the mark, legally - it just seems like a bad look, PR-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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