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2 hours ago, Torpedo Forecheck said:

Your posts speak for themselves. Weak IMO

Man, you seem the one who's posts speak for themselves. No one it seems to me has said anything insulting or offensive. You're speaking like someone who isn't particularly objective here.

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Does anyone have any specifics on what Keefe’s involvement/regrettable conduct was?   I clicked on 2 of the links up thread and didn’t see anything. (I’m not a big fan of Gare Joyce’s work, by the way, and his piece did nothing to improve my opinion of it.)

if you’ve got something informative, pls post a link.  

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3 hours ago, Torpedo Forecheck said:

Couldn't help but stick your nose into someone else's conversation and then insult me because I have a different opinion. Some of you guys are special!

I didn't insult you or your opinion. You are welcome to your opinion anytime. These are open public conversations with no need to "stick your nose into" as all are invite to comment. Especially seeing I was in this convo from the start pretty much.

I also congratulated you on your experience will Keefe in all honesty. I also said I hoped that everything goes well with him. I really don't see what your issue is.

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2 hours ago, nfreeman said:

Does anyone have any specifics on what Keefe’s involvement/regrettable conduct was?   I clicked on 2 of the links up thread and didn’t see anything. (I’m not a big fan of Gare Joyce’s work, by the way, and his piece did nothing to improve my opinion of it.)

if you’ve got something informative, pls post a link.  

Thank you. Or just come out and say it in simple, declarative, factual sentences. I feel like everyone's dancing around the subject. I also clicked the links and felt like I was watching a movie where everything's going to be revealed in the final scene.

What did he do that makes him unsuitable to be an NHL coach in 2019 (after coaching in the AHL)?

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23 hours ago, kas23 said:

After reading this, I think I’ll pass on Keefe  

That is one heck of a story.  Those were 14-18 year olds and I don’t want to hold it against kids when they were obviously being manipulated by a troubled adult.  More than anything it made me think, where were these kids’ parents???

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Add Ralph Krueger possibly to the Coaching Search. 

 

 

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7 hours ago, nfreeman said:

Does anyone have any specifics on what Keefe’s involvement/regrettable conduct was?   I clicked on 2 of the links up thread and didn’t see anything. (I’m not a big fan of Gare Joyce’s work, by the way, and his piece did nothing to improve my opinion of it.)

if you’ve got something informative, pls post a link.  

He refused to shake the hand of the league commissioner after winning the OHL title, was the "big" thing, in the articles I read. 

"When they did win that OHL title, Keefe famously refused to shake the hand of league commissioner David Branch.

“This must burn your ass,” he sneered at Branch. It’s one of many things from that time he regrets.

“I’ve had the great fortune to shake David Branch’s hand a number of times since I’ve been back in OHL, something I’m very grateful for,” says Keefe. “If we were able to win the OHL again, I’d be certain go out of my way to shake his hand.”"

https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2015/03/27/sheldon-keefe-builds-second-career-out-of-second-chance.html

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Apparently none of the higher ups wanted him coaching in the OHL when he first went there. 

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7 minutes ago, Thorny said:

He refused to shake the hand of the league commissioner after winning the OHL title, was the "big" thing, in the articles I read. 

"When they did win that OHL title, Keefe famously refused to shake the hand of league commissioner David Branch.

“This must burn your ass,” he sneered at Branch. It’s one of many things from that time he regrets.

“I’ve had the great fortune to shake David Branch’s hand a number of times since I’ve been back in OHL, something I’m very grateful for,” says Keefe. “If we were able to win the OHL again, I’d be certain go out of my way to shake his hand.”"

https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2015/03/27/sheldon-keefe-builds-second-career-out-of-second-chance.html

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Apparently none of the higher ups wanted him coaching in the OHL when he first went there. 

Thanks @Thorny.  Unfortunately that article, in a major failing, didn’t say why he refused to shake the commissioner’s hand.  And we still have zero information about any involvement with Frost’s misdeeds, despite multiple vague allusions upthread.  

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1 minute ago, nfreeman said:

Thanks @Thorny.  Unfortunately that article, in a major failing, didn’t say why he refused to shake the commissioner’s hand.  And we still have zero information about any involvement with Frost’s misdeeds, despite multiple vague allusions upthread.  

It is Damien Cox, after all. 

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I think if the marlies were out of it, we would have had an interview with keefe already.  I will even go so far to say that we are probably waiting on the AHL playoffs to finish.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Thorny said:

He refused to shake the hand of the league commissioner after winning the OHL title, was the "big" thing, in the articles I read. 

"When they did win that OHL title, Keefe famously refused to shake the hand of league commissioner David Branch.

“This must burn your ass,” he sneered at Branch. It’s one of many things from that time he regrets.

“I’ve had the great fortune to shake David Branch’s hand a number of times since I’ve been back in OHL, something I’m very grateful for,” says Keefe. “If we were able to win the OHL again, I’d be certain go out of my way to shake his hand.”"

https://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2015/03/27/sheldon-keefe-builds-second-career-out-of-second-chance.html

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Apparently none of the higher ups wanted him coaching in the OHL when he first went there. 

Meanwhile 99% of the Sabres' fanbase wants Jack to skull-thump Bettman with the Cup when that glorious moment arrives.

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11 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

I saw links about the Leafs being ready to extend Keefe's contract in March. Why did that fall through?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-working-new-contract-marlies-coach-sheldon-keefe/

Because buffalo is in the mix for him, even read somewhere a leafs poster in hf mentioning it somewhere.     

 

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Also from 31 Thoughts Martin is out of the running for Sabres HC 

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9 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

I saw links about the Leafs being ready to extend Keefe's contract in March. Why did that fall through?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-working-new-contract-marlies-coach-sheldon-keefe/

I don’t think it did. As mentioned his new deal has an out for a NHL Job. The question becomes can Dubas block certain teams from interviews? 

Dreger mentioned there will be a short window after The Marlies complete their playoff run to interview Keefe. 

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7 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I don’t think it did. As mentioned his new deal has an out for a NHL Job. The question becomes can Dubas block certain teams from interviews? 

Dreger mentioned there will be a short window after The Marlies complete their playoff run to interview Keefe. 

Ah. Thanks. So he did sign a new deal? Nothing comes up in a 10-second google effort.

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On 5/9/2019 at 12:29 PM, darksabre said:

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I think,someone helped lol

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On 5/11/2019 at 10:30 PM, Brawndo said:

 

Bowness and Martin?  That's the first 12 years of their head coaching history.

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3 hours ago, shrader said:

Bowness and Martin?  That's the first 12 years of their head coaching history.

Everything old is old still.

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5 hours ago, shrader said:

Bowness and Martin?  That's the first 12 years of their head coaching history.

 

Almost positive the owner is on record as saying they're looking to start getting good again after the lockout.

One of those 2 as a hire would help ensure they have some more highly rated young talent showing up next off season to help with that cause.

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On 4/29/2019 at 2:36 PM, Doohickie said:

It's the name Todd, isn't it?

Is Logan worse, though?

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42 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

Seven? 

I consider Lebrun connected, and this to be one of the few pieces of real reporting we’ve heard on this.

McLellan we know talked to us, although it’s not clear if that was a formal interview. Tippett, Krueger, Martin had interviews according to reputable sources. The others...?

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"Confirmed" five:

Todd McLellan, per Bob McKenzie

Dave Tippett, per Elliotte Friedman

Ralph Krueger, per Eliiotte Friedman

Jacques Martin, per John Shannon

Nate Leaman, per Bruce Garrioch

 

Unconfirmed:

Sheldon Keefe?

Chris Taylor?

Alain Vigneault?

Joel Quennville?

 

"Confirmed" to not have interviewed:

(not Rikard Gronborg, per John Vogl)

(not Todd Richards, per John Shannon)

 

 

Wherein "confirmed" means they were "in talks" or "interviewed," not just a "candidate" or "being considered."

Reminder that Housley was hired on June 16th, so we could be in for another month of this.

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