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3 hours ago, WildCard said:

Buffalo QB Tyree Jackson is signing with the #Bills on a deal that guarantees him $75,000, source said. By far the most surprising signal-caller not drafted now becomes a big (literally) project behind Buffalo's other big-armed QB.

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) April 27, 2019

I love this signing.  I don't know if he will work out, but I predicted the Bills would get him as a project to develop behind Allen.  I actually work out with a former Bill and I told him on Friday that I wanted the Bills to take and develop Jackson. He told me that most NFL teams aren't that far sighted.  

 

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On 4/27/2019 at 1:10 PM, GASabresIUFAN said:

 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

According to Spotrac.com, the Bills still have 30 mill to spend and therefore can afford to keep Shady.  However, in the NFL, teams can roll forward their excess cap from a prior year.  In simple terms this means that Buffalo can exceed the 2020 cap by 30 mill if they keep the current cap situation.  Trade Shady and now you have 36 mill to rollover on a young and improving team that may need to make a splash in the 2019 off-season to fill some holes.  Also don't assume only a draft pick is coming back.  I can see a cap dump kind of trade that benefits both teams. The Bills trade Shady and get back a DE and another play with a cap hit that helps our depth for the season and is then let go.

The RB room is getting crowded.  Yeldon, Gore, Shady and now Singletary.  Also they signed Perry, and still have Murphy and Wade hanging around.  A few of these guys won't make the team.  I think Shady is one of the odd men out.  I admit trading Shady could leave a suspect backfield with an aging Gore, a rookie in Singletary and the inconsistent Yeldon, but that also opens up opportunity for the talented Yeldon and Singletary, who as @Hoss said, they didn't spend a 3rd on a guy who isn't going to play.

Also McCoy should be sent packing after the End Game Tweet

The Bills have over $70 million of cap space in 2020 with 50 players signed, and that's not even including any of the potential $30+ million 2019 rollover cap. The $6 million additional rollover cap gained from getting rid of McCoy this year is COMPLETELY NEGLIGIBLE. McCoy is a future Hall of Famer ready to redeem himself after one bad season, a season in which he was surrounded by perhaps the most atrocious collection of pass catchers, offensive linemen, and QB performances in Bills history. The 2019 Bills will feature a run-heavy offense, and McCoy helps the 2019 Bills win now, which is simply more important than having $6 million extra to spend in 2020. It's only a crowded backfield right now while everyone is healthy. Yeldon isn't actually that good, and the 2019 free agent market supported this argument. If Singletary shows any ability to catch out of the backfield, Yeldon is gone. And yes, it's actually fairly common for 3rd round picks to start their rookie seasons inactive on rosters that are healthy and full of depth like the 2019 Bills. Look it up.

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39 minutes ago, Marchand'sNose said:

And yes, it's actually fairly common for 3rd round picks to start their rookie seasons inactive on rosters that are healthy and full of depth like the 2019 Bills. Look it up.

I'm bored on a Sunday evening, so here's the last 5 years of 3rd round RBs:

2018
Royce Freeman - 15 carries for 71 yards in the Broncos' season opener

2017
Alvin Kamara - 7 rushes for 18 yards, 4 receptions for 20 yards in the Saints' season opener
Kareem Hunt - 17 rushes for 148 yards and a TD, 5 receptions for 98 yards and 2 TDs in the Chiefs' season opener
D'Onta Foreman - 1 rush for 4 yards in the Texans' season opener
James Conner - 4 rushes for 11 yards in the Steelers' season opener

2016
Kenyan Drake - 0 carries, on the field for 1 snap in the Dolphins' season opener
CJ Prosise - 1 rush for -2 yards, 1 reception for 13 yards in the Seahawks' season opener (coincidentally against the Dolphins)

2015
Tevin Coleman - 20 rushes for 80 yards in the Falcons' season opener
Duke Johnson - 7 rushes for 22 yards in the Browns' season opener
David Johnson - 0 rushes, 1 catch for 55 yards and a TD in the Cardinals' season opener
Matt Jones - 6 rushes for 28 yards in the Redskins' season opener

2014
Charles Sims - Did not play until game 9 due to ankle injury.
Tre Mason - Did not play until game 5
Terrance West - 16 rushes for 100 yards in the Browns' season opener
Jerick McKinnon - 1 rush for 1 yard in the Vikings' season opener
Dri Archer - 1 rush for 4 yards in the Steelers' season opener

 

It would seem that it's not fairly common for 3rd round picks to start their rookie seasons inactive.  Of the above 17 examples, only 2 were inactive, and one of those due to injury. That leaves 1 out of 17 third round running backs from the last 5 years that did not play in his team's season opener barring injury.

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1 hour ago, JujuFish said:

I'm bored on a Sunday evening, so here's the last 5 years of 3rd round RBs:

2018
Royce Freeman - 15 carries for 71 yards in the Broncos' season opener

2017
Alvin Kamara - 7 rushes for 18 yards, 4 receptions for 20 yards in the Saints' season opener
Kareem Hunt - 17 rushes for 148 yards and a TD, 5 receptions for 98 yards and 2 TDs in the Chiefs' season opener
D'Onta Foreman - 1 rush for 4 yards in the Texans' season opener
James Conner - 4 rushes for 11 yards in the Steelers' season opener

2016
Kenyan Drake - 0 carries, on the field for 1 snap in the Dolphins' season opener
CJ Prosise - 1 rush for -2 yards, 1 reception for 13 yards in the Seahawks' season opener (coincidentally against the Dolphins)

2015
Tevin Coleman - 20 rushes for 80 yards in the Falcons' season opener
Duke Johnson - 7 rushes for 22 yards in the Browns' season opener
David Johnson - 0 rushes, 1 catch for 55 yards and a TD in the Cardinals' season opener
Matt Jones - 6 rushes for 28 yards in the Redskins' season opener

2014
Charles Sims - Did not play until game 9 due to ankle injury.
Tre Mason - Did not play until game 5
Terrance West - 16 rushes for 100 yards in the Browns' season opener
Jerick McKinnon - 1 rush for 1 yard in the Vikings' season opener
Dri Archer - 1 rush for 4 yards in the Steelers' season opener

 

It would seem that it's not fairly common for 3rd round picks to start their rookie seasons inactive.  Of the above 17 examples, only 2 were inactive, and one of those due to injury. That leaves 1 out of 17 third round running backs from the last 5 years that did not play in his team's season opener barring injury.

Touche! Sort of.... I was referring to third round picks in general. But for third round RB's, yes apparently they are normally expected to contribute right away. Nevertheless, I stand by my claim that McCoy will not be traded. I appreciate the research though!

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1 hour ago, Marchand'sNose said:

Touche! Sort of.... I was referring to third round picks in general. But for third round RB's, yes apparently they are normally expected to contribute right away. Nevertheless, I stand by my claim that McCoy will not be traded. I appreciate the research though!

https://theathletic.com/950943/2019/04/28/10-thoughts-on-cody-ford-and-the-rest-of-the-bills-day-2-and-day-3-picks-in-the-draft/

From the Athletic

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What happens with LeSean McCoy and this backfield?

Before anyone could ask a question about LeSean McCoy in Beane and McDermott’s news conference after the Singletary pick, Beane made a point to step in and make an emphatic statement about the team’s current lead back.

“LeSean McCoy is still here,” Beane said. “Before you ask that question, he’s still the starter. We roll the ball out, there’s no questions about that. Devin (Singletary), just like we said about Cody (Ford) and Ed (Oliver), he’ll come in here and compete. Wherever he slots when we get ready to play games is where it’ll end up being.”

Beane and McDermott both insist upon every player needing to compete to earn a starting spot. They say it after every draft pick and constantly stress it during training camp with veterans and rookies alike. So why does the front office feel the need to publicly declare McCoy a starter in April? It felt as if Beane were speaking directly to McCoy, who didn’t take kindly to conceding reps to younger players toward the end of last season. He was also benched for showing up late for a team bus to a game and didn’t always live up to being a captain.

Now, after the worst season of his career, McCoy has more competition in the backfield as he gets set to turn 31. Singletary joins free-agent additions Frank Gore and T.J. Yeldon. At the very least, it appears McCoy’s days of being a featured back in this offense are over. We’ll see how he handles that.

 

He will be traded.

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When did they start listing a player's position as edge?  I feel like I haven't seen that listed as the official position on draft trackers before this year.

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5 minutes ago, shrader said:

When did they start listing a player's position as edge?  I feel like I haven't seen that listed as the official position on draft trackers before this year.

i’ve seen it over the last few years. all it means is they’re an OLB in a 3-4 or DE in a 4-3.

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5 minutes ago, shrader said:

When did they start listing a player's position as edge?  I feel like I haven't seen that listed as the official position on draft trackers before this year.

i know it. totally a thing now.

i also learned during this draft season that 3-4/4-3 is not really a relevant "player fit" distinction anymore -- not that you'd learn as much from listening to 3/4 of the pundits on TV.

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1 hour ago, shrader said:

When did they start listing a player's position as edge?  I feel like I haven't seen that listed as the official position on draft trackers before this year.

It feels like BS corporate jargon especially since I see it capitalized for no good reason half the time. The older I get the less I like things. 

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8 minutes ago, inkman said:

It feels like BS corporate jargon especially since I see it capitalized for no good reason half the time. The older I get the less I like things. 

Or they got tired of DE/OLB designations and realized the game has change and so should the language. 

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1 hour ago, SDS said:

Or they got tired of DE/OLB designations and realized the game has change and so should the language. 

It's like you seek me out to refute what I say

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1 hour ago, SDS said:

Or they got tired of DE/OLB designations and realized the game has change and so should the language. 

Its football and the more the nomenclature changes, the more that cycle of tactic changes repeat themselves.. interesting choice of new names,  my guess its more about marketing and not getting stale

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I definitely see “Edge” as descriptive and accurate. It’s undoubtedly how scouts and coordinators refer to the position. Seems like it’s mostly that species of dudes who are 6’3” 250# and llllloooonnnggg and flexible at the waist.

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1 hour ago, North Buffalo said:

Its football and the more the nomenclature changes, the more that cycle of tactic changes repeat themselves.. interesting choice of new names,  my guess its more about marketing and not getting stale

Lol. Marketing? Marketing to who? What are they marketing? Do I need my credit card? What’s the ROI?

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my assumption is “edge” comes from within scouting circles and came to the media through speaking with said scouts, seeing the way they rank players and also scouts who became members of the media.

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9 minutes ago, Hoss said:

my assumption is “edge” comes from within scouting circles and came to the media through speaking with said scouts, seeing the way they rank players and also scouts who became members of the media.

Fo sho.

And to Ink’s point, there’s definitely some “kewl inside baseball jargon” going on here too.

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But if the terminology evolves, why does the fullback name still exist? And why do they still have two o-line positions named after something those guys never do, while the other three positions are named very accurately?

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7 minutes ago, shrader said:

But if the terminology evolves, why does the fullback name still exist? And why do they still have two o-line positions named after something those guys never do, while the other three positions are named very accurately?

because those positions haven’t evolved. the role of what is now called an edge rusher has evolved.

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14 minutes ago, shrader said:

But if the terminology evolves, why does the fullback name still exist? And why do they still have two o-line positions named after something those guys never do, while the other three positions are named very accurately?

Sounds like a Gallagher skit.

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5 hours ago, shrader said:

When did they start listing a player's position as edge?  I feel like I haven't seen that listed as the official position on draft trackers before this year.

Thank you for pointing this out. Definitely have heard this more this year than any other, if at all. I think football people say it to sound smart.

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6 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Thank you for pointing this out. Definitely have heard this more this year than any other, if at all. I think football people say it to sound smart.

no. this really isn’t complicated. “edge” players are the only players whose position will change depending on the scheme they’re drafted into. OLB in 3-4, DE in a 4-3.

there are offensive lineman who might play a different position depending on how certain teams view them but they’re listed as whatever their most likely position is in the league because it’s not as simple as “this or that” in those cases.

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6 minutes ago, Hoss said:

no. this really isn’t complicated. “edge” players are the only players whose position will change depending on the scheme they’re drafted into. OLB in 3-4, DE in a 4-3.

there are offensive lineman who might play a different position depending on how certain teams view them but they’re listed as whatever their most likely position is in the league because it’s not as simple as “this or that” in those cases.

I love when young people tell me how stuff works.

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Let me add that I think it’s a term media folk use to let us know that they know what they are talking about. We’ve definitely heard it more this year than any other before it.

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46 minutes ago, SDS said:

Sounds like a Gallagher skit.

Give me time. I’ll get to the watermelon. 

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1 minute ago, shrader said:

Give me time. I’ll get to the watermelon. 

Racist.

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