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9 minutes ago, inkman said:

Much like the Dahlin criticism, I feel like throwing shade on Tremaine is almost equally as forbidden. I'm not an analyst or a stats guy. When I watch, he more often than not, seems way out of position. He's got great size and speed but holy smokes make a play at the line of scrimmage. 

First, he makes a lot of plays others couldn’t make.

Second, he will look a lot better when they have a true run stuffer in front of him.

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48 minutes ago, tom webster said:

First, he makes a lot of plays others couldn’t make.

Second, he will look a lot better when they have a true run stuffer in front of him.

So the criticism should be on the DT, including 91?

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2 hours ago, inkman said:

So the criticism should be on the DT, including 91?

91 is not a run stuffer. They need Star to be better. Williams is making plays all over the field already that most MLB couldn’t even get to. He will look a lot better when 91 is wreaking havoc and somebody is playing Star better then Star is playing Star.

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17 minutes ago, tom webster said:

91 is not a run stuffer. They need Star to be better. Williams is making plays all over the field already that most MLB couldn’t even get to. He will look a lot better when 91 is wreaking havoc and somebody is playing Star better then Star is playing Star.

I'm well aware of the John Randle esque comparisons for Oliver as a penetrating havoc wreaking DT.  Do you think the Bills should have drafted a one technique DT like Star vs 91?  I kinda felt like DT wasn't adequately addressed at the incumbent has been underwhelming every minute in a Bills uni. 

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Steelers fans have to be apoplectic losing to the fish 14-0.  

 

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3 hours ago, inkman said:

I'm well aware of the John Randle esque comparisons for Oliver as a penetrating havoc wreaking DT.  Do you think the Bills should have drafted a one technique DT like Star vs 91?  I kinda felt like DT wasn't adequately addressed at the incumbent has been underwhelming every minute in a Bills uni. 

In fairness, until Harry Phillips went down with the injury, the Bills were looking like they had adequately addressed DT.  He was playing better than Loutelei.

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7 hours ago, Taro T said:

In fairness, until Harry Phillips went down with the injury, the Bills were looking like they had adequately addressed DT.  He was playing better than Loutelei.

yeah, that was a really big hit for them.

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8 hours ago, Taro T said:

In fairness, until Harry Phillips went down with the injury, the Bills were looking like they had adequately addressed DT.  He was playing better than Loutelei.

 

4 minutes ago, sabills said:

yeah, that was a really big hit for them.

I forgot about him 

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10 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Jets shopping Bell.

Rumoured that Chiefs and Texans are in ... as are the Bills?!

If the Bills trade for a running back everyone should be fired.

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22 minutes ago, darksabre said:

If the Bills trade for a running back everyone should be fired.

I'd be all in, tbh. The money/cap would probably be manageable. I'm not sure what the price would be. The player coming in would be a huge upgrade over what the Bills have.

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15 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

I'd be all in, tbh. The money/cap would probably be manageable. I'm not sure what the price would be. The player coming in would be a huge upgrade over what the Bills have.

What the Bills have currently at the RB position was a conscious choice made by the team. I don't need them trading picks to fill holes they created because they were stupid.

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8 minutes ago, darksabre said:

What the Bills have currently at the RB position was a conscious choice made by the team. I don't need them trading picks to fill holes they created because they were stupid.

More to the point, if Daboll called more screens and runs, he might find that his current running backs are adequate or better.

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3 minutes ago, Eleven said:

More to the point, if Daboll called more screens and runs, he might find that his current running backs are adequate or better.

Exactly. Gore, Singletary, and Yeldon should be plenty to win with right now if they bothered to use them correctly.

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Maybe? I'm just talking about a high-end talent being available on terms that don't hurt the team. I'm always down for that.

Otoh, the Bills might be better to look for discounted sale options at OL and/or DL.

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25 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Maybe? I'm just talking about a high-end talent being available on terms that don't hurt the team. I'm always down for that.

Otoh, the Bills might be better to look for discounted sale options at OL and/or DL.

The Bills' moon is (possibly) just beginning to wax (that's assuming that Josh Allen can become "the guy," which he isn't yet).  No need to overspend on Bell or on anyone else this year.  "Discounted sale options" at OL or DL sounds just fine to me, as long as it's a player who will be here next season.

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1 hour ago, darksabre said:

What the Bills have currently at the RB position was a conscious choice made by the team. I don't need them trading picks to fill holes they created because they were stupid.

Listen, if Buffalo GM's aren't constently trying to fill holes they created in the first place what would they even DO?

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18 hours ago, inkman said:

I'm well aware of the John Randle esque comparisons for Oliver as a penetrating havoc wreaking DT.  Do you think the Bills should have drafted a one technique DT like Star vs 91?  I kinda felt like DT wasn't adequately addressed at the incumbent has been underwhelming every minute in a Bills uni. 

In a passing league, drafting a run stuffer at #9 overall seems like a glorious waste. The run defense being a liability wouldn't matter in the slightest if the offense could score more than 2 TDs in a game. 

2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

I'd be all in, tbh. The money/cap would probably be manageable. I'm not sure what the price would be. The player coming in would be a huge upgrade over what the Bills have.

Sir, I say SIR. Do you think RB talent on this team is really a problem that we should spend assets on to address? Assets that could be used to upgrade the passing game? 

1 hour ago, Eleven said:

More to the point, if Daboll called more screens and runs, he might find that his current running backs are adequate or better.

What, you think Singletary should get more designed runs than Josh Allen has designed QB sweeps? Heresy! 

1 hour ago, That Aud Smell said:

Maybe? I'm just talking about a high-end talent being available on terms that don't hurt the team. I'm always down for that.

Otoh, the Bills might be better to look for discounted sale options at OL and/or DL.

Stop it! WR or bust. 

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On 10/27/2019 at 9:50 PM, Broken Ankles said:

They don’t need to win at least 5 games.  They need to win four games for a wildcard birth.   The AFC is not competitive this season.  Assuming Houston/Indy are division and Wildcard #1, who else has an inside track to Buffalo?  Trick question.  Answer is no one.  Today was disappointing but it’s not doom and gloom for the probability of a post season.  

For starters, I'll take the Steelers to get in over Buffalo.  I see 6 more wins on their schedule right now and that's before we even discuss the 12/15 game where they host the Bills. Anybody wanna bet money on the Bills going to Pittsburgh in December and coming up with a win?  Anyone?

This season has been all cute and everything but it ends on Thanksgiving. 4 straight L's to Dallas, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England put them, at best, in a must win situation v. the Jets in week 17 while the Steelers and the Ravens play each other for the division and WC with both holding tiebreakers over Buffalo should Buffalo lose. Think about that scenario for more than 3 seconds and tell me you still feel comfortable.

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1 hour ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

For starters, I'll take the Steelers to get in over Buffalo.  I see 6 more wins on their schedule right now and that's before we even discuss the 12/15 game where they host the Bills. Anybody wanna bet money on the Bills going to Pittsburgh in December and coming up with a win?  Anyone?

This season has been all cute and everything but it ends on Thanksgiving. 4 straight L's to Dallas, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England put them, at best, in a must win situation v. the Jets in week 17 while the Steelers and the Ravens play each other for the division and WC with both holding tiebreakers over Buffalo should Buffalo lose. Think about that scenario for more than 3 seconds and tell me you still feel comfortable.

Even when the Bills were good, and yes I'm old enough to remember...I didnt really play the what if game with looking down the schedule.  Now that they've been irrelevant for two decades I've been largely apathetic for most of the time,  but when they do put together the odd early season promising run like this one I'm in the "show me the final second ticking off the clock in a playoff clinching win" camp.

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5 hours ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

For starters, I'll take the Steelers to get in over Buffalo.  I see 6 more wins on their schedule right now and that's before we even discuss the 12/15 game where they host the Bills. Anybody wanna bet money on the Bills going to Pittsburgh in December and coming up with a win?  Anyone?

This season has been all cute and everything but it ends on Thanksgiving. 4 straight L's to Dallas, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England put them, at best, in a must win situation v. the Jets in week 17 while the Steelers and the Ravens play each other for the division and WC with both holding tiebreakers over Buffalo should Buffalo lose. Think about that scenario for more than 3 seconds and tell me you still feel comfortable.

Steelers will have losses to Indy, Browns (away), Ravens, and either Bills or Rams.   That's 8-8. 

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15 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

Steelers will have losses to Indy, Browns (away), Ravens, and either Bills or Rams.   That's 8-8. 

We will see. You miss by 1 and you are looking at 9-7 with the Steelers holding the tie breaker. Quite frankly the Steelers have done better against good teams than we have against lousy ones and are a handful of plays from being 5-2 themselves...without Roethlisberger.

Beating the dregs of the NFL isn't going to get it done. They need to beat a good team or two and Captain Happyclaps hasn't done that.

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6 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said:

In a passing league, drafting a run stuffer at #9 overall seems like a glorious waste. The run defense being a liability wouldn't matter in the slightest if the offense could score more than 2 TDs in a game. 

Sir, I say SIR. Do you think RB talent on this team is really a problem that we should spend assets on to address? Assets that could be used to upgrade the passing game? 

What, you think Singletary should get more designed runs than Josh Allen has designed QB sweeps? Heresy! 

Stop it! WR or bust. 

The RB talent isn’t a problem, but Bell would be an upgrade to the passing game (assuming the horrid play calling could be corrected). 

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1 hour ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

We will see. You miss by 1 and you are looking at 9-7 with the Steelers holding the tie breaker. Quite frankly the Steelers have done better against good teams than we have against lousy ones and are a handful of plays from being 5-2 themselves...without Roethlisberger.

Beating the dregs of the NFL isn't going to get it done. They need to beat a good team or two and Captain Happyclaps hasn't done that.

I like Coach McClappy.  Can we agree on that?   I’ll take your bet.  Bills straight up against the Steelers.   eddie murphy GIF

 

The usual?

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14 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said:

Sir, I say SIR. Do you think RB talent on this team is really a problem that we should spend assets on to address? Assets that could be used to upgrade the passing game? 

Stop it! WR or bust. 

It’s all water under the bridge at this point. However, the whole point of Bell’s holdout was that he essentially is a WR.

7 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said:

The RB talent isn’t a problem, but Bell would be an upgrade to the passing game (assuming the horrid play calling could be corrected). 

Werd. Also, I think Daboll has been good at times, and, at other times, not so good.

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