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6 minutes ago, Ross Rhea said:

I believe the Black Knights is from Army and that is why it couldn't be used. Something about the US military/gov't being the only ones to use Black Knights. Somebody better knowing can explain.

Correct. Had nothing to do with the Blackhawks. Foley also didn’t really want to go full Army despite his connections to it but he wanted to be close.

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The good news is that Laskonnen and Samuelsson will both be in either the SHL or NCAA again next year so they won't be anywhere near the NHL in time to need expansion protection but... post expansion they should be on the team or in year 2 of their NHL careers. Now obviously this could not work and they could never play but at least there are defensive options stewing. 

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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

The good news is that Laskonnen and Samuelsson will both be in either the SHL or NCAA again next year so they won't be anywhere near the NHL in time to need expansion protection but... post expansion they should be on the team or in year 2 of their NHL careers. Now obviously this could not work and they could never play but at least there are defensive options stewing. 

Even if they both signed contracts this off-season and play for Rochester next year, they would both still be exempt as they would be 2nd year pros.  Pekar and UPL who are both signed, are also going to be exempt because their contracts slide as they haven’t played (and won’t) in the AHL/NHL this season.  Davidsson is also exempt.

I wonder if any other franchise was hurt as much by the delay as we were?  Dahlin, Mitts, Asplund, Pilut, Borgen and Guhle would have all been exempt but for the delay.  That’s a lot of talent to have to make a decision on.  It will be interesting to follow this saga as some of these guys take off, while others don’t.  I think the McCabe vs Pilut decision for Jbot could be a very difficult one.  I’m also wondering if in a couple of years whether Risto could end up on the trading block for cap and PT issues as Dahlin eats into his PP time. 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Even if they both signed contracts this off-season and play for Rochester next year, they would both still be exempt as they would be 2nd year pros.  Pekar and UPL who are both signed, are also going to be exempt because their contracts slide as they haven’t played (and won’t) in the AHL/NHL this season.  Davidsson is also exempt.

I wonder if any other franchise was hurt as much by the delay as we were?  Dahlin, Mitts, Asplund, Pilut, Borgen and Guhle would have all been exempt but for the delay.  That’s a lot of talent to have to make a decision on.  It will be interesting to follow this saga as some of these guys take off, while others don’t.  I think the McCabe vs Pilut decision for Jbot could be a very difficult one.  I’m also wondering if in a couple of years whether Risto could end up on the trading block for cap and PT issues as Dahlin eats into his PP time. 

 

 

Haven't scoured other teams 50 man rosters to be certain, but nobody immediately stands out as having been shafted as bad by the delay.

Of course, nobody else has been as bad as the Sabres have been through the last 5 years, so nobody else should've been accumulating 18-21 year old talent like the Sabres have.

And add at least Olofsson to your list.

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One other thing I'd like to see Botterill do over the next couple of years is structure new contracts of guys they want to be keeping LT though might have to expose (such as McCabe, Sheary, Olofsson, etc.) in such a way & to as much of an extent as may be possible under the cap such that those guys get their largest cash payout during the duration of the contract in '21-'22 with the bulk of that money coming as a large signing bonus on July 1, 2021.  Continue to have that max outlay on the 1st day of the next couple of seasons as well & then have the contract drop back to the lower rate later to get everything to fit under the cap.

I.e., make these guy as unappealing as possible to Seattle by giving them a relatively huge payment (& way more that their worth for the remaining portion of the contract because their prior cap hit will have far exceeded the cash they receive) on the 1st day of their 1st season in the NHL.  You want McCabe, sure take him, but do you really want to give him ~$6MM on day 1 of each of the next 2 seasons and ~$5MM on day one of the following to eventually get down to a $3MM outlayin the final 3 seasons?  (That would've been a $3, $3, $6, $6, $5, $3, $3, $3 w/ an AAV of $4MM and was strictly as an example.  Not saying that is what he actually will get.  Also realize that doesn't quite comport with the CBA's variability rule, but it is close.)  But Pegulas have shown a willingness to spend to try to make improvements, maybe this would be something they'd be on board with knowing they'd have big 1 time checks to write to him should he stay a Sabre.

Don't know that would work, but hope and expect Botterill is "thinking outside the box" on this.

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