Thorny Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 What are we thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Cool that Dahlin made the list. Can't understand how he is ranked higher than Eichel TODAY. My gut feel is that, though Eichel belongs about #9 today, that by the end of the season he'll be viewed as top 5 or 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 I love it. The Leafs will be spending more than $30 million on three players. I love Barkov and he would be in my top 10, but I am surprised he’s in theirs. Otherwise, some market pandering there for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 I agree. Pettersson being that high TODAY was interesting, too. I mean, he's phenomenally talented. Is he a better player than Jack Eichel right now though? Mitchell Marner? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 They also ranked the Core 4 under 24 as well per team https://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-carries-oilers-to-top-of-core-4-under-24-list-1.1209806 The Sabres finished 6th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: I love it. The Leafs will be spending more than $30 million on three players. I love Barkov and he would be in my top 10, but I am surprised he’s in theirs. Otherwise, some market pandering there for sure. It's difficult to pick between guys like Eichel, Marner, and Barkov, right now. Edited November 16, 2018 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Thorny said: I agree. Pettersson being that high TODAY was interesting, too. I mean, he's phenomenally talented. Is he a better player than Jack Eichel right now though? Mitchell Marner? I don't think so. Pettersson is up that high simply because of the shockingly fast start. Heis one I definitely could see dropping. Kind of surprised the kid from the Aisles didn't make the list. (But glad he didn't, 'cause the author(s) would've dropped one of the Sabres off the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 I would love to hear a reason other than “Leaf” as to why Matthews is better than MacKinnon or Marner better than Eichel. Petterson and Dahlin are questionable given their small bodies of work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) Notably: No Laine. I'm not exactly his biggest fan. But having Pettersson and Dahlin ranked ahead of him, right now, is pretty funny. Unless it's like a "picking a guy to start a franchise" type of ranking. Edited November 16, 2018 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabresFanInRochester Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Thorny said: What are we thinking. I think this type of stuff motivates Jack. Just a hunch. Those are some good players on the list. As much as I'd like to watch more hockey, my observations of these players are when they play against Buffalo. That said, I don't usually come out of a game thinking Jack was outplayed by any of the mentioned names. I'm not saying Jack deserves to be first, but Jack has his flashes and I am thrilled he's a Sabre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 In the segment, they say that Jack "slid" because he's not scoring enough goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Thorny said: In the segment, they say that Jack "slid" because he's not scoring enough goals. So if he had 5 goals like Itch Marner, he would have risen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) I'm sorry but what a bunch of BS. Marner, Petterson even Barkov ahead of Jack. I don't think so. Lets compare Jack to Marner. Jack has basically averaged a pt a game for the last 2+ seasons on the worst team in the NHL. Marner is finally average a pt a game this season for the first time. Marner joined one of the best teams in the NHL, granted he has made them better, but he has also, as recently as last season spent some time on the 3rd and 4th lines for Tor to get his game going. He scored 22 last season, Jack has never had less then 24. Petterson is a rookie and is playing great, but also doesn't yet have the weight of the franchise on his shoulders. Lets see what he does over a couple of season before saying he is at the top of the charts. I'd also have Rantanen closer to the top. He is a machine. Edited November 16, 2018 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 14 hours ago, Brawndo said: They also ranked the Core 4 under 24 as well per team https://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-carries-oilers-to-top-of-core-4-under-24-list-1.1209806 The Sabres finished 6th The picture they used for Pettersson looks like it was taken in a funhouse mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeEich Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 6:38 PM, dudacek said: I love it. The Leafs will be spending more than $30 million on three players. I love Barkov and he would be in my top 10, but I am surprised he’s in theirs. Otherwise, some market pandering there for sure. If everything works out like it's appearing, we will be spending 30M+ on 3 players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, LikeEich said: If everything works out like it's appearing, we will be spending 30M+ on 3 players Are you thinking Casey, Rasmus and Jack? Rasmus won’t get a new contract until 2021; the largest 2nd contract ever given a defenceman in the current CBA is the $7 million the Panthers gave Ekblad. He could be looking at $10 million, but he will need to be putting up 60-plus points on a very good team. But Casey’s contract comes up in 2020. He is on pace for 24 points this year, or about half of what Sam Reinhart got in his rookie year. If he doubles that pace in year two he will be entering contract negotiations with, at best, the same bargaining power Reinhart had this summer, which earned him $3.6 million. To sniff $8 million he’d probably have to be putting up around 70 points. Leafs won’t pay Nylander that much for back-to-back 60 point seasons. Edited November 19, 2018 by dudacek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeEich Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, dudacek said: Are you thinking Casey, Rasmus and Jack? Rasmus won’t get a new contract until 2021; the largest 2nd contract ever given a defenceman in the current CBA is the $7 million the Panthers gave Ekblad. He could be looking at $10 million, but he will need to be putting up 60-plus points on a very good team. But Casey’s contract comes up in 2020. He is on pace for 24 points this year, or about half of what Sam Reinhart got in his rookie year. If he doubles that pace in year two he will be entering contract negotiations with, at best, the same bargaining power Reinhart had this summer, which earned him $3.6 million. To sniff $8 million he’d probably have to be putting up around 70 points. Leafs won’t pay Nylander that much for back-to-back 60 point seasons. I was thinking more Skinner at 7.5-8, Eichel at 10 and Dahlin at the 12 range. In 3 years that's at least what he will cost. His play + the rising cap is why I'm projecting that. But really it's not a stretch to think someone else other than Skinner may come in and earn a 8M. My point is and you're dealing with having 2 elite+/franchise players and a 3rd elite guy, good luck getting them under 30M. Hopefully by that time we have a cup making it more worth it. Edited November 19, 2018 by LikeEich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 Boy I hope Rasmus is worth $12 million three years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 19, 2018 Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, dudacek said: Boy I hope Rasmus is worth $12 million three years from now. Maybe he will take a discount and give us a deal at 10mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeEich Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 10 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Maybe he will take a discount and give us a deal at 10mil? 10M today will be 12M in 3 years, so ya that'll probably be a fair market price haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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