Brawndo Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Too late. We could have used him *before* picking up all those Swedes. How do we know we got the right ones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 This is getting ridiculous. Out of the Top 50 scorers in the NHL last season, 4 were Swedish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg17 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Swedes comprise 8.5% of the league and 8% of the top 50 scorers. How about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 So your'e saying they're underrepresented in top scoring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Doohickie said: So your'e saying they're underrepresented in top scoring? That's a fact. Good thing our GM is investing heavily in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Doohickie said: Too late. We could have used him *before* picking up all those Swedes. How do we know we got the right ones? In their eyes there's no such thing as a wrong Swede. Especially the left handed variety that play defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Buff Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 I know we all like to poke fun at the infusion of Swedes into our lineup, but I for one view this as a positive. If we can get a leg up on other teams & have an advantage into a foreign talent pool then by all means, i think that's good news. Just because we hired a Swedish scout, it doesn't mean we're going to ignore the rest of the world. The way i see it, the more scouts we have, the better.... for awhile there, it appeared as if we didn't have any scouts lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 I don't think the Swedish (and Euro in general) leagues are overlooked by the rest of the NHL; the Red Wings figured that out in the 1990s. But having someone with intimate knowledge of the Swedish players will certainly be helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Doohickie said: Too late. We could have used him *before* picking up all those Swedes. How do we know we got the right ones? That was my thought exactly. Shouldn't we have had a scouting in Sweden long before selecting Davidsson, Asplund, Olofsson, Dahlin, signing Pilut etc..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 I'm sure they had scouting, but now they have a dedicated Swedish scout dude all to themselves. It's a positive development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doohickie said: I'm sure they had scouting, but now they have a dedicated Swedish scout dude all to themselves. It's a positive development. Oh I agree, but considering how much we have invested of late in Scandinavian players, this is a much over due positive development. On the plus side, Olofsson, Davidsson, Asplund, UPL and even the Laakksonen are developing nicely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) SHL or Elitserien as it was called before SHL was one of if not the best league in Europe before KHL started up for real. Most good players either went to NHL or Swizterland after making it in Elitserien and it was not very hard to replace them since the reputation of Elitserien was worldwide, a good portal into NHL, Switz was basicly for cash only, 2-3 times more salary there than in Elitserien (SHL) for a decent player. But now SHL is like nothing compared to what it was, hopefully we can keep producing talants over here but the money and budgets for teams are are dropping like a stone. Every team had atleast 1 profile before, a guy that was born in the same city that bleeded for the team that could get spectators all warm in their heart, this stuff doesnt even exsist anymore. SHL has dropped like a bomb here in Sweden and i personally dont even watch games anymore because in what direction SHL has been moved. Obviously we can still produce talant but the hype over SHL is basicly dead over here. What i more specificly mean by this is that obviously weve never been able to keep the stars from NHL, but the guys that are close to stars weve been able to keep because we could match Swiz- money or just because the quality was better, but when KHL came it was just not even possible. This is why its so hard for the teams these days to get ppl to come to the games becasuse the skilllevel has decreased and everyone thats pretty much good at the game leaves for NHL/KHL/Switzerland. So when we cant get ppl to come to our games, the moneybox for trying to have a big talatpool for every team keeps shrinking. It is what it is ! Edited July 26, 2018 by MODO Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 6 hours ago, MODO Hockey said: SHL or Elitserien as it was called before SHL was one of if not the best league in Europe before KHL started up for real. Most good players either went to NHL or Swizterland after making it in Elitserien and it was not very hard to replace them since the reputation of Elitserien was worldwide, a good portal into NHL, Switz was basicly for cash only, 2-3 times more salary there than in Elitserien (SHL) for a decent player. But now SHL is like nothing compared to what it was, hopefully we can keep producing talants over here but the money and budgets for teams are are dropping like a stone. Every team had atleast 1 profile before, a guy that was born in the same city that bleeded for the team that could get spectators all warm in their heart, this stuff doesnt even exsist anymore. SHL has dropped like a bomb here in Sweden and i personally dont even watch games anymore because in what direction SHL has been moved. Obviously we can still produce talant but the hype over SHL is basicly dead over here. What i more specificly mean by this is that obviously weve never been able to keep the stars from NHL, but the guys that are close to stars weve been able to keep because we could match Swiz- money or just because the quality was better, but when KHL came it was just not even possible. This is why its so hard for the teams these days to get ppl to come to the games becasuse the skilllevel has decreased and everyone thats pretty much good at the game leaves for NHL/KHL/Switzerland. So when we cant get ppl to come to our games, the moneybox for trying to have a big talatpool for every team keeps shrinking. It is what it is ! I guess that is why so many young guys make the SHL in their draft year. Do you think changes to the import rules would improve the quality? Getting more ex NHL guys to play there? Would fans want to see those guys? How about enticing young North American prospects to go develop for a year while getting paid, like Matthews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Blizzard Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Amazing people are complaining about Sabres INVESTING in SCOUTING Who cares what country, just find talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 8:47 AM, MODO Hockey said: SHL or Elitserien as it was called before SHL was one of if not the best league in Europe before KHL started up for real. Most good players either went to NHL or Swizterland after making it in Elitserien and it was not very hard to replace them since the reputation of Elitserien was worldwide, a good portal into NHL, Switz was basicly for cash only, 2-3 times more salary there than in Elitserien (SHL) for a decent player. But now SHL is like nothing compared to what it was, hopefully we can keep producing talants over here but the money and budgets for teams are are dropping like a stone. Every team had atleast 1 profile before, a guy that was born in the same city that bleeded for the team that could get spectators all warm in their heart, this stuff doesnt even exsist anymore. SHL has dropped like a bomb here in Sweden and i personally dont even watch games anymore because in what direction SHL has been moved. Obviously we can still produce talant but the hype over SHL is basicly dead over here. What i more specificly mean by this is that obviously weve never been able to keep the stars from NHL, but the guys that are close to stars weve been able to keep because we could match Swiz- money or just because the quality was better, but when KHL came it was just not even possible. This is why its so hard for the teams these days to get ppl to come to the games becasuse the skilllevel has decreased and everyone thats pretty much good at the game leaves for NHL/KHL/Switzerland. So when we cant get ppl to come to our games, the moneybox for trying to have a big talatpool for every team keeps shrinking. It is what it is ! I think KHL is the future for hockey in Europe though, might hard the more traditional countries like , Switzerland, Sweden, Finland and maybe Germany. But the KHL could be a 40 team euro/russian league easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) If I were the SHL and other non Russian leagues, I’d band together to form, a counter balance to the KHL. Between Finland, Sweden, Germany and Switerland , I think you could form a pretty strong league and avoid Putin. Maybe a Finland/Sweden Conference and a Swiss/German Conference with the Conference Champions playing a the Euro Cup. Such a league might help attendance, keep some talent home by creating a huge championship to play for. There are 12-15 teams in each of the 4 leagues. I’d merge the teams down to 8 teams in each league and 32 team Europe League. Edited July 27, 2018 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) On 7/25/2018 at 5:10 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: That was my thought exactly. Shouldn't we have had a scouting in Sweden long before selecting Davidsson, Asplund, Olofsson, Dahlin, signing Pilut etc..... We have had scouts in Sweden for years. At least since Murray was GM. https://buffalonews.com/2017/05/02/sabres-notebook-scouts-safe-nhls-role-hirings-eichel-scores/ Anders Forsberg Quote Anders Forsberg, born July 26, 1966 [1] [2] in Örnsköldsvik, is a Swedish ice hockey coach who is currently Europe's chief for Buffalo Sabres. In Sweden, he has been head coach in Skellefteå AIK and Modo Hockey. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Forsberg_(ishockeytränare) Botterill's bias/preference is causing me some concern. Edited July 27, 2018 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Fingal, not Fingel is 32 and has been scouting for HV71 J20 since 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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