Hoss Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Lindholm, who has better ES scoring and is a year older, just signed for 4.85m X6 years. Wonder what the impact on Reinhart is. Adam Henrique got a 5 year deal worth $5.825M per today, too. He’s much older than both of these guys, but it’s interesting to see the range these guys get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 That's a terrible deal but he is a UFA so he gets that bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: That's a terrible deal but he is a UFA so he gets that bump. A little too much for me but he's 28, consistently plays a full season scoring 40-50pts. Not the worst thing ever but not great for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 any word on Sam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) I think the best comparable is Scheifele , they have around the same amount of points in their ELC years. https://www.capfriendly.com/players/mark-scheifele If you can get him cheaper than this all good. But I expect samson at around 8x6. Bridge deal 3x5. Edited July 17, 2018 by Huckleberry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Any speculation on Samson's perspective? Is he gonna hold out for max term, or is he content to sign a bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Two years, 3.5-4.0 on a bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 gotta be a bridge... if he produced in the first half like he did in the second then he would've earned somewhere in the 5x6 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: if he produced in the first half like he did in the second then he would've earned somewhere in the 5x6 range. He’s already earned that contract with his body of work to date. Bo Horvat signed at 5.5x6 coming off a 52point 3rd season. Jonathan Drouin signed the same deal coming off a 53 point season. Sam had 50 and outproduced both of those guys over the term of his ELC. Draisaitl scored 77 points in 82 games in the last season of his entry deal and signed 8 years at $8.5 per Sam’s pace over his last 39 games would have netted him 77 points. Sometimes I dont think people pay attention to the actual market. Edited July 18, 2018 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, pi2000 said: gotta be a bridge... if he produced in the first half like he did in the second then he would've earned somewhere in the 5x6 range. If he produced in the first half like he did in the second half he’d be looking at $7M at least. He would’ve finished with around 75 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Maybe the better question is what do we want him to produce so that he fits an appropriate cap number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, dudacek said: He’s already earned that contract with his body of work to date. Bo Horvat signed at 5.5x6 coming off a 52point 3rd season. Jonathan Drouin signed the same deal coming off a 53 point season. Sam had 50 and outproduced both of those guys over the term of his ELC. Draisaitl scored 77 points in 82 games in the last season of his entry deal and signed 8 years at $8.5 per Sam’s pace over his last 39 games would have netted him 77 points. Sometimes I dont think people pay attention to the actual market. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I don’t see why Botterill wouldn’t be happy with a Drouin deal. He’ll be slightly overpaid if he remains a 50-Point scorer and buying two UFA years is probably going to balance that off. Sam might be the one better off on a one-year bridge. He puts up 50 points again and signs a Drouin deal. He puts up 65 and he can probably get a Kane contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I do not think JBot will give Reino a long-term deal, but he might, and if he does, I will be observing both Reino and JBot with a gimlet eye from then on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, dudacek said: I don’t see why Botterill wouldn’t be happy with a Drouin deal. He’ll be slightly overpaid if he remains a 50-Point scorer and buying two UFA years is probably going to balance that off. Sam might be the one better off on a one-year bridge. He puts up 50 points again and signs a Drouin deal. He puts up 65 and he can probably get a Kane contract. Ehlers got 6 mil coming off 64 points. If Cheveldayoff can get Ehlers for that, I'd lke to see Sam get less considering he had less production. Edit: Re-reading your comparables, Drouin and Horvat at 5.5 seem reasonable. I pretty much just don't want Sam getting 6. Edited July 18, 2018 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 5 years or 27 mill with a NTC after 3 years on about 50 pages of 8 1/2 by 11 paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I'd still offer him the scheifele deal, 8x6.2 mill . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Its to silent about this. Has me worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 If they haven't signed a deal yet, it means they're pretty far apart, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) Or cell service at cottage sux. Edited July 21, 2018 by 3putt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, nfreeman said: If they haven't signed a deal yet, it means they're pretty far apart, yes? Weren't the rumors this time last year that Eichel wouldn't sign an extension & somebody'd be offer sheeting him right about now? Until thry reach mid-September w/ no signing, really not worried about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: If they haven't signed a deal yet, it means they're pretty far apart, yes? I believe Botterill himself or a reporter said the negotiations weren’t going to be starting until “late July.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Botts should either go 2 year deal at $4 per year or long term at 6 year at $5.5 per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 10 hours ago, sweetlou said: Botts should either go 2 year deal at $4 per year or long term at 6 year at $5.5 per year. Why a 6 year deal? That only buys 2 UFA years. We should lock him up for 8 or go with the bridge deal. I don't see the upside is signing him to just 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 ...unless he turns into Matt Moulson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.