WildCard Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 There are only 2 pieces from Ottawa I have any interest in: Stone and Chabot. We're not getting either of them for our poop. Well from what I've read Melnyk is solely interested in making that team as lucrative as possible to sell. He's waiting on some development project to finish two years from now, at which point he wants to sell the team. Supposedly that means he wants no bad contracts or money tied to the team whatsoever, to make the sale as profitable as possible. So, Ottawa is 100% a team that would be looking to just stockpile draft picks in exchange for ditching talent that has contracts solely because the owner doesn't care about anything other than how to make the team as cost of running as low as possible in 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Our Lord Erik Karlsson smites thee. Look, if we flip our assets from the O'Reilly deal into Karlsson, I'll take back everything bad I said about it. But something makes me think that's not in the cards :lol: We've got extra picks, considerable depth in the prospect pool, and cap flexibility. We are in a prime position to bid on whatever RFA shakes loose. Who was the last good RFA to shake loose for mediocre futures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Who was the last good player to shake loose for mediocre futures? Ryan O'Reilly, then I think Evander Kane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Well from what I've read Melnyk is solely interested in making that team as lucrative as possible to sell. He's waiting on some development project to finish two years from now, at which point he wants to sell the team. Supposedly that means he wants no bad contracts or money tied to the team whatsoever, to make the sale as profitable as possible. So, Ottawa is 100% a team that would be looking to just stockpile draft picks in exchange for ditching talent that has contracts solely because the owner doesn't care about anything other than how to make the team as cost of running as low as possible in 2 years Didn't Dorion say he doesn't want to trade in division? So, Botterill will need someone else to give up something to Ottawa before he can trade with the 3rd party. I do think one of those picks, if not 2 of them, are moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Not so sure it's going to be 3. That Central division is TOUGH. It is, and it may take too long for their shiny new toys to gel w/ the rest to make the dance. But they have a playoff quality team on paper & if they miss, would expect them to be on the outs by about 4 points tops. That would place their pick in the 12-15 range & sends it to Buffalo barring a freak lotto combination popping up. And as to the thread topic, expecting he uses all 3 picks. If not, the 2nd pick shakes loose in a package for a young winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I’m going to keep beating the Minnesota Drum, Fenton has 9.8 Million in Cap Space and Dumba (6.3 Million projected AAV) and Zucker (5.2 Million projected AAV) to sign as RFAs. Something has to give Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Look, if we flip our assets from the O'Reilly deal into Karlsson, I'll take back everything bad I said about it. But something makes me think that's not in the cards :lol: Who was the last good RFA to shake loose for mediocre futures? Probably shouldn’t have limited that to RFA, it’s more like RFA-aged player. I was thinking Schenn, Domi, Galchenyuk, Drouin, Sheary, Tatar, Hartman... I’m going to keep beating the Minnesota Drum, Fenton has 9.8 Million in Cap Space and Dumba (6.3 Million projected AAV) and Zucker (5.2 Million projected AAV) to sign as RFAs. Something has to give Zucker, Neiderreiter and Coyle certainly fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I’m going to keep beating the Minnesota Drum, Fenton has 9.8 Million in Cap Space and Dumba (6.3 Million projected AAV) and Zucker (5.2 Million projected AAV) to sign as RFAs. Something has to give I have a hard time thinking something won't happen with Minnesota. We're perfect trade partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Draft's 3 left-handed Swedish defensemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Take all 3 picks: All Swedish players and the Stockholm Sabres take flight Draft's 3 left-handed Swedish defensemen. +1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I hate making predictions, but I feel very comfortable when I say that I don't expect them to use all 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Whatever he feels is best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I think he puts them in a large vault, and then dives in and swims around in them like Scrooge McDuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 i'd go full tim murray and trade all three picks for Karlsson (extension in place, obv), because i am out of patience. ottawa won't want to trade in-division but i don't think any other team can offer three first round picks, let alone two of which from teams who missed the playoffs last year. how can they say no to that, knowing they have no pick of their own? (Maybe we can even lottery protect our own since that is the current ridiculous trend of the league.) that would definitely salvage the ROR deal for me. i know it doesn't fit the mold of a rebuild at all, but i'd be all for EK65 "mentoring" Dahlin. at least we could definitively say our defense has improved. it would likely lead to Risto being dealt eventually but you never know. as much as i hate the ROR trade and think it was a step in the wrong direction, there is no arguing that the bottom 6 has improved. a guy like EK on the back end with Dahlin presents hope that our defense will be vastly improved. maybe the team overall could take a step forward this season after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 i'd go full tim murray and trade all three picks for Karlsson (extension in place, obv), because i am out of patience. ottawa won't want to trade in-division but i don't think any other team can offer three first round picks, let alone two of which from teams who missed the playoffs last year. how can they say no to that, knowing they have no pick of their own? (Maybe we can even lottery protect our own since that is the current ridiculous trend of the league.) that would definitely salvage the ROR deal for me. i know it doesn't fit the mold of a rebuild at all, but i'd be all for EK65 "mentoring" Dahlin. at least we could definitively say our defense has improved. it would likely lead to Risto being dealt eventually but you never know. as much as i hate the ROR trade and think it was a step in the wrong direction, there is no arguing that the bottom 6 has improved. a guy like EK on the back end with Dahlin presents hope that our defense will be vastly improved. maybe the team overall could take a step forward this season after all. At this point, this is a must, if we're going to send our own first rounder, a potential top five pick, out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I'm gonna lose it if this is really what happens Get ready to lose it. He's building the team anti GMTM style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 It’s impossible to even guess right now. Depends on where the picks end up. How deep is the draft. Can Jbot fill a hole(s) by using one or more in trade. Etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I'd imagine we'll use 2 of them. I don't trust their drafting strategy or evaluation though. Jonathan Berggren and David Farrance should be Sabres but I digress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utica Club Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I'm hoping Bots takes all 3 picks and they get a chance to develop in the AHL. The Sabres can continue sucking, but if the Amerks are good, there is hope for the Sabres future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 equivalent nba players to ROR and kane..Rudy Gay,Carmelo Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 equivalent nba players to ROR and kane..Rudy Gay,Carmelo Anthony NBA - don’t you know that is a swear word in Buffalo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 equivalent nba players to ROR and kane..Rudy Gay,Carmelo Anthony Don't you besmirch Carmelo Anthony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I predict both SJ and STL will miss the playoffs and will push the pick they owe to the Sabres to the 2020 draft. But both teams will be worse a year later and end up Top 3 lottery picks. Booyah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I'd love to see him package the 2 lower 1st round picks and package them for a scoring winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) My guess is that he’ll wait until the trade deadline when it’s a bit more clear where the SJ and STL picks will fall. There are a lot of unknowns right now that probably lesson their value. I love the Karlsson idea but I don’t think that will happen. We need to find a scoring winger. What about a deal with CHI for Pat Kane? Not sure we can absorb his cap hit but that is an organization that will need to start to rebuild and get younger. Edited July 3, 2018 by Beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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