ubkev Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 And we still have plenty of cap space long term for our core players. Who cares about the next couple years? Not my liver, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Well yea, he's American and played in the NCAA.There's a bias towards them now and I'm convinced of it. This isn't the new roster. There is plenty of time. Also, I'll take 10th place in a heartbeat! Perpetually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 This makes me really interested to see what comes back in the Risto trade I’m now sure is happening because of reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 There's a bias towards them now and I'm convinced of it. Perpetually? Well, right now we're perpetually in last place, soooo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 This team has way too many average players on the roster. I'm all for the team concept and not putting too much emphasis on a couple of superstars........... but this is a ridiculous trade. It's very tough to come across a great 2 way center, and at the price, O'Reilly should have been an 'untouchable'. There is no good coming out of this. Just when I thought the Sabres might be turning the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Guys, I’m trying to look at Sobotka and Berglund and saying at least they are clear upgrades on Larsson and Pouliot. Are you telling me I’m wrong? Well Larry is terrible, so I guess if you're looking for a slight means above that, okay they're upgrades. I'm not a fan of Berglund and his re-signing a season ago was hilarious. Now he's our problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Guys, I’m trying to look at Sobotka and Berglund and saying at least they are clear upgrades on Larsson and Pouliot. Are you telling me I’m wrong? But whether it's Berglund or Mittelstadt at 2C, we suffered a massive downgrade there. Doubt upgrading the 3rd line makes up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 This makes me really interested to see what comes back in the Risto trade I’m now sure is happening because of reasons. I hope you are mistaken. My hope is that tonight is not what the roster looks like by training camp, meaning he converts the new acquired assets into something that can get everybody excited....but I am also preparing to be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Mike Harrington tweeted that Jbotts said ROR age was a factor. Sounds like JBotts doesn’t believe he can take this group to the playoffs in the next couple of seasons. This team is hard to root for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 From my perspective, JBot doesn't have a clue. His strategy is Trump-like in that he appears to be simply trying to undo the moves of his predecessor. Murray's big acquisitions were O'Reilly and Evander Kane. JBots jettisons them for a pile of garbage and more picks. At what point do we actually try to field a winning team? Every year it is "wait until next year".... We got the Blues' 9th, 10th and 18th leading scorers from last season, two of whom are over 30, for one of the best two-way centers in the league in his prime. The optics aren't good on this one. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 You could also throw in the goalies in this swap as Buffalo took Hutton while the Blues took Johnson to be their backup...... Maybe that makes things marginally better???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 one step forward by drafting Dahlin, two big steps backward by trading o'reilly for junk. see you guys next year, when the media runs jack eichel out of town after he expresses frustration about finishing in last place for the third time in four years or however many, who the hell even cares anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Love the deal. That's 5 legitimate pieces for O'Reilly, and they covered his tab. Awesome. I don't understand the depressing atmosphere here. That's a solid haul. Why do we care about the bonus though? Isn't that just all Pegulas money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Sobotka and Berglund for Malkin. E5 That was perfectly said. I'm hoping we can find a positive solution out of at least one of these contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Mike Harrington tweeted that Jbotts said ROR age was a factor. Sounds like JBotts doesn’t believe he can take this group to the playoffs in the next couple of seasons. This team is hard to root for. I said it in another thread, we are in for a much longer rebuild than anyone here was thinking or wants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Mike Harrington tweeted that Jbotts said ROR age was a factor. Sounds like JBotts doesn’t believe he can take this group to the playoffs in the next couple of seasons. This team is hard to root for. Despite all of the locker room mumbo jumbo, I think that's it. Botterill doesn't plan on winning for several more season, and that was the impetus for the trade. Of course, it would've been nice to get a single A-caliber piece in return to fit with such a timeline, rather than stopgap vets and middling picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 O'Reilly had better have been a giant, and I mean a super massive black hole sized, ###### to make this trade. And just last year we kept reading about how O'Reilly was a perfect teammate, great work ethic, always stayed after practice to improve his game and kept the young guys there as well to help them improve their game.................... I agree with you, I hope he was like you mentioned because it might make me feel better. But, I get the feeling he's not that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I said it in another thread, we are in for a much longer rebuild than anyone here was thinking or wants We’re coming up on a decade of “2-3 seasons out”. Cheez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 What's this I'm seeing about the 1st Rd pick being top 10 protected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 In a space of a few months, Botterill has completely demolished the Murray Sabres. And become the GM Murray never wanted to be: "I could go for a five year rebuild and have job security, but I don't want that." (Serious paraphrase.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 What's this I'm seeing about the 1st Rd pick being top 10 protected?True is right, there's no way they pick there anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolstoy Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 My two cents: The Sabres were worst in the NHL last year. Everybody should be expendable except Eichel an Mittelstadt. . Don't forget that ROR was the ostensible leader on that team, given his ages, status, and experience. Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. His leadership failed miserably. He disappeared for games at a time, and his attitude got old. While I don't love any of the players we got in return, they are at least NHL quality. The team needed an overhaul. Might as well embrace change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugspirit Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Why do we care about the bonus though? Isn't that just all Pegulas money? When it's $7.5M, that can affect future contracts. It's not nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Well, right now we're perpetually in last place, soooo.... Where is the "perpetual" 10th place finish coming from? Our long-term core is Eichel, Dahlin, Mittelstadt, and Dahlin. They'll all be in their prime starting in 3 years or so, which is when nearly every bad contract we currently have is over. Berglund will be on the books for 1 more year at under $4M AAV and Okposo will still be around another couple years at $6M. Our malcontents from last year (Kane, ROR, and Lehner) are all gone and we're adding young talents like Dahlin, Mittelstadt, Guhle, and Thompson to the roster. And we seem to have organizational depth for the first time in a decade. We should still be more fun to watch this coming year and our long-term outlook is still good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Despite all of the locker room mumbo jumbo, I think that's it. Botterill doesn't plan on winning for several more season, and that was the impetus for the trade. Of course, it would've been nice to get a single A-caliber piece in return to fit with such a timeline, rather than stopgap vets and middling picks.We gotta flip those picks for something. I don't wanna wast Eichel's prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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