LTS Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Just now, WildCard said: So everyone gets a trophy I think I just exposed myself as a millennial Or you clearly define "best". The best team of the regular season is. The best team of the playoffs is. The best man in ThunderDome is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, LTS said: See below. Also, injecting a meme into this would have cheapened the intellectual nature of the conversation, I am glad it did not work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, LTS said: The NFL playoff format rewards the best team with a bye. This is inherently different than the NHL which does not. Objectively, all you can say is the team has to play one less game. It doesn't mean their last two aren't harder than another team's three. And it doesn't matter, you either win or you do not. If you do not, you weren't the best. You were successful, but not successful enough. As for why I am in the conversation? Because this is an open forum and the conversation was on playoff formats. Sorry, if my viewpoint doesn't meet your needs here, but that does not mean I was not supposed to not comment. The playoff formats, to me, are going to be directed largely at maximizing revenue and I have no problem with that. Because in the end, you have to win the games you are given to win it all. No excuses. ... I don't have a problem with you partaking in the discussion, truly didn't mean to imply that I did. Just don't see the point of adding to a discussion about the merits of various playoff formats with 'doesn't matter, beat who you're scheduled to play.' And I think it would be cool/good for the NHL to try to get the 2 best teams into the Finals rather than force the teams to each come from a different conference. And the system I'd proposed allows that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 9 hours ago, shrader said: But is Tampa's 113 points really any worse than the Jets' 114, or even Nashville's 117? It goes right back to the imbalanced schedules thing. Allowing for crossover across conferences like that opens up a huge can of worms. Do you really want to do that to account for what is going to be a fairly rare scenario. Ya. I mean, the Jets weren't really the second best team last season. Getting taken to the cleaners by Vegas in 5 games (losing 4 straight in the process) proved that. It's not like Nashville grinded them down more physically that another team would have. Rinne was a sieve that series. And Fleury was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 So can we get a playoff ranking idea thread, no offense, but I'm kinda sick of reading about it in this thread I enjoy frequenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 15 hours ago, pi2000 said: Let the record show, Pi doesn't know the difference between a meme and a gif. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said: Let the record show, Pi doesn't know the difference between a meme and a gif. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Wyldnwoody44 said: So can we get a playoff ranking idea thread, no offense, but I'm kinda sick of reading about it in this thread I enjoy frequenting. If anyone has even been posting anything from “around the NHL,” I’ve missed it because of the playoff format banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Every player, coach and front office person should apologize for putting Oleksiak in this position. Throwing him into a pissed off, motivated thugs vengeance was reckless on all their parts. I don't feel bad for Jamie but the Pens challenged the leagues premier thug and he answered the Bell on Oleksiak's face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, inkman said: Every player, coach and front office person should apologize for putting Oleksiak in this position. Throwing him into a pissed off, motivated thugs vengeance was reckless on all their parts. I don't feel bad for Jamie but the Pens challenged the leagues premier thug and he answered the Bell on Oleksiak's face. Man, what I would give to have Wilson on our team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SwampD said: Man, what I would give to have Wilson on our team. The only thing you'd have to give up is your honor. He's a sociopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, darksabre said: The only thing you'd have to give up is your honor. He's a sociopath. Until the T-Rex's that run the league sanction his style of play useless, he will have a useful place in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, darksabre said: The only thing you'd have to give up is your honor. He's a sociopath. Why, because someone challenged him to a fight and he won? And I’m not even disagreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 9 hours ago, SwampD said: Why, because someone challenged him to a fight and he won? And I’m not even disagreeing with you. Obviously not. You know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 10 hours ago, inkman said: Every player, coach and front office person should apologize for putting Oleksiak in this position. Throwing him into a pissed off, motivated thugs vengeance was reckless on all their parts. I don't feel bad for Jamie but the Pens challenged the leagues premier thug and he answered the Bell on Oleksiak's face. Wilson can continue to F right off, forever. Answer the bell with Ryan Reaves, you punk.* I do feel badly for the Penguin player. * I think I know why he won't: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Quick question... who won that game? You know the one where the big tough Wilson intimated the other team by beating them up. I am asking for a friend. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Quick question... who won that game? You know the one where the big tough Wilson intimated the other team by beating them up. I am asking for a friend. I mean we both know that's not the end goal of fighting. And Wilson, for all the crap he gets, is an important player to that team. It's not John Scott running around out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 45 minutes ago, WildCard said: I mean we both know that's not the end goal of fighting. And Wilson, for all the crap he gets, is an important player to that team. It's not John Scott running around out there What is the end goal of fighting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: What is the end goal of fighting? There's a few of them. In the short term view of winning the game you're currently playing, it can be momentum swings. In the long term view of your season, it can bring your team closer together and it can send a message to other teams around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, WildCard said: I mean we both know that's not the end goal of fighting. And Wilson, for all the crap he gets, is an important player to that team. It's not John Scott running around out there What? I have no problem with Wilson, or anyone else that fights, so long as it's a fair fight and no fighter has a distinct advantage over the other. That said, I would prefer a more skilled game, which is what we have now, I think, and very limited fighting. Wilson in a punk, not because he fights, which he rarely does, so far as I know. It's all the cheap shots that hurt people. Edited December 20, 2018 by New Scotland (NS) my typing has not improved overnight, go figure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: What is the end goal of fighting? Supposedly it’s an outlet preventing acts of retribution by guys with sticks. As far as Oleksiak goes, he chose to fight. Unless someone in management said fight or be cut it’s on him. One lucky punch and it goes the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Supposedly it’s an outlet preventing acts of retribution by guys with sticks. As far as Oleksiak goes, he chose to fight. Unless someone in management said fight or be cut it’s on him. One lucky punch and it goes the other way. Yeah but his organ-eye-zation did him no favors lighting a fire under Wilson's ass with all the ducking chatter. The last thing anyone in the NHL needs is a sociopath supremely motivated to cave an individuals face in. Oleksiak is no choir boy but he was thrown in front of a road grater. Like I said, his teams owes him an apology. If Jamie was the one blabbing then it's on him, to my knowledge it wasn't him rather coaches and teammates. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: What is the end goal of fighting? To win.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, WildCard said: There's a few of them. In the short term view of winning the game you're currently playing, it can be momentum swings. In the long term view of your season, it can bring your team closer together and it can send a message to other teams around the league. Still waiting on evidence that any of this is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, TrueBlueGED said: Still waiting on evidence that any of this is real. Former players talk about it a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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